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Double Tonguing    22:18 on Thursday, July 03, 2008 Vote for this post Vote against this post 0 votes

tenorsax13
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I can double tongue on one note, but say in like a run that isn't slurred, with many sixteenth notes that must be tongued, my tongue trips over itself and I can't do it!! And in the Suite in A Minor(Telemann) I have to learn how to do it effectively and smoothly. Any tips? I'm using the syllables
ti-ka-ti-ka, that is before i trip and fail. It seems that my fingers and tongue cannot work together when I double tongue, but i don't think thats the case. Help please!!!!

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Re: Double Tonguing    04:34 on Friday, July 04, 2008 Vote for this post Vote against this post 0 votes

Bilbo
(968 points)

1)Start slowly
2)take your time to develop the coordination. Do it everyday occasionally.
3)Work on scales, etudes and pieces. If something has the same duplet note values, you can practice double tonguing.If a piece has triplet note values, you can still practice double touguing if you play each note twice. Otherwise, go to triple tonguing.
4)Do scales 4X on each note, then 2X and then finally one time.
5)Try using a metronome to control how gradually you increase the speed.
http://www.metronomeonline.com/
6)If you aren't doing it properly, it does not matter how fast you have the metronome. Don't practice mistakes.
7)Always work on your tone quality. Even on the shortest notes. Whatever you are playing, it's always about the tone.

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Re: Double Tonguing    07:16 on Friday, July 04, 2008 Vote for this post Vote against this post 0 votes

Micron
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You must practice at a speed you can actually do it - well! That means slow. Maybe very slow to start with. Yes, it will be really boring.

But if you don't, you will only be practicing getting better at tripping!

I suggest playing scales with a metronome. Every time you tirp - th tiniest bit, reduce the speed on the metronome one notch. When you play a scale 5 times without tripping (AT ALL!), increase the metonome speed one notch. 100 scales later.... 200 scales later.... And you'll have it for life. You did not learn your tables by trying to do calculus!

Players who can play fantastically, fast, and make it look so easy, have done all the boring, slow homework. Players who trip, never did it.

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Re: Double Tonguing    09:34 on Friday, July 04, 2008 Vote for this post Vote against this post 0 votes

Alieannie
(837 points)

Great advice above. As someone who's recently started working towards a killer double tongue, everything they've both said is true.

yes, it does start off slow and boring but once you get it perfect at one speed and slowly but surely get to move the metronome up a clip at a time, you will feel excited and renewed at your progress. There's nothing like moving a passage up a dozen clicks and realizing you are now playing something you thought a few weeks ago or months ago was impossible! Good luck.

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Re: Double Tonguing    10:09 on Friday, July 04, 2008 Vote for this post Vote against this post 0 votes

Patrick
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you are getting good advice..I always have students learn double with short groups of notes, which you can do on each step of a scale for example..you can start with du-gu-du-gu-du on each step and then double the number of notes as you get more comfortable...

keep your throat open and your jaw relaxed, keep the tongue movement to a miniumum..

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Re: Double Tonguing    10:35 on Friday, July 04, 2008 Vote for this post Vote against this post 0 votes

kaflute133
(122 points)

i personally used du-gu-du-gu when i did that piece. it is a light smooth and east articulation.

   

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