Offset G vs. Inline G
Offset G vs. Inline G
13:48 on Tuesday, June 6, 2006
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Re: Offset G vs. Inline G
14:57 on Tuesday, June 6, 2006
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Re: Offset G vs. Inline G
17:24 on Tuesday, June 6, 2006
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Re: Offset G vs. Inline G
17:29 on Tuesday, June 6, 2006
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Flutist06 (1545 points)
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The only reason that in line G flutes exist is that a French flute maker by the name of Louis Lot (you may have heard of him...He's quite famous) started making flutes this way, as it eliminated a rod and allowed him to get more flutes out the door for a greater profit. Since he was widely acknowledged as one of the greatest flutemakers of the day (late 1800's to early/mid 1900's), other companies started doing it too, and it just spread. The original flutes designed by Theobald Boehm (who is responsible for the mechanism on modern flutes) called for an offset G. Because often it is children that are beginners, and they have smaller hands, the offset was used on beginner level instruments, and the in line on professional instruments, so some people today still believe that a professional flute must have an inline G. This is absolutely ridiculous, as neither offers a better tone or affects intonation in any way. The only consideration is if you want to have a Split E mechanism on the flute. These, in combination with an in line G, can cause the mechanism to bind, so if you want a Split E, you're better off going with an offset or half offset mechanism. Other than that, it is up to personal preference and comfort (and if it's an openhole, or French, flute, the ease with which you can cover the hole). Most flute makers today, if asked which way they make more custom flutes, will tell you that there is a big surge in purchases of offset G's, as the relatively recent revelation of repetitive stress injuries and carpal tunnel have inclined people to the more ergonomic offset G. For people with larger hands, the inline G can be more comfortable, however. I personally prefer an offset, though I can play just as well on an inline. Hope that helps!
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Re: Offset G vs. Inline G
17:55 on Tuesday, June 6, 2006
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Re: Offset G vs. Inline G
19:11 on Tuesday, June 6, 2006
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Re: Offset G vs. Inline G
19:42 on Tuesday, June 6, 2006
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Re: Offset G vs. Inline G
19:59 on Tuesday, June 6, 2006
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Re: Offset G vs. Inline G
00:46 on Wednesday, June 7, 2006
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Re: Offset G vs. Inline G
02:41 on Wednesday, June 7, 2006
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Re: Offset G vs. Inline G
21:56 on Wednesday, June 7, 2006
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Tibbiecow (480 points)
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I have a student flute -closed holes, offset G, and pro flute- open holes, inline G. I can use my student flute as a backup because it fits my fancy headjoints.
My hands are narrow, but my fingers are long. I have no trouble reaching the inline G, but my right hand ring finger really easily overshoots the D key, so that one is plugged on my pro flute, otherwise I have trouble going to lowest C.
I have trouble buying gloves; the ones that fit my fingers are way too big around the hand, and those that fit the hand are way too short in the fingers. My husband is 6'3" and my fingers are longer than his, but his hands are a LOT bigger than mine!
It comes down to what is comfortable for tha individual player.
For people with serious problems, I have seen John Lunn's articles on flute ergonomics and key extensions to be very interesting. Any really good flute with inline G can be modified with a key extension to be comfortable for its player. The problem would be that this would possibly devalue the flute for resale, so it would be done only for a REALLY nice flute. If offset G were sufficient, most people would just sell the inline and buy an offset G flute.
The serious performance/repetitive motion injury problems that some people have are a real eye-opener. I am not quite as 'perfectionist' about my right hand fingers being perfectly centered on the keys because I don't want to get hurt. There is a balance between 'correct' position, the ability to play well, and ergonomics.
If I bought a new flute, it would probably be offset G, but I would be much more interested in other features, such as headjoint, scale, feel of the mechanism, etc.
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Re: Offset G vs. Inline G
23:20 on Wednesday, June 7, 2006
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StephenK (395 points)
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I don't think it is an issue of hand size either. It would seem that in-line would be more ergonomic for players whose ring finger is longer than their middle finger. |
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Offset vs inline for people with large hands:
1. Inline - Form a C shape with your hand, with your middle two fingers on your thumb.
2. Offset - Form a C shape with your hand, with your middle two fingers in the bend of the thumb.
There is stress both when you stretch your fingers too much and when you crunch them too much.
I can play either, but the crunch of the fingers becomes especially noticable doing something like an G#-A trill.
Simply switching between offset and inline and trilling away with the left hand will reveal which one it most ergonomic.
A funny thing I discovered while playing with a flute with split-E is that I find the balance bar actually forces me to arch my right hand (to avoid it) in a very comfortable position, it helps keep me from scrunching the right hand, but I could see it getting in the way for those with more petite hands... forcing a right hand stretch in order to avoid the rod (depending on their flute's balance bar placement). <Added>I meant "which one IS ergonomic" sorry.
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Re: Offset G vs. Inline G
17:05 on Thursday, June 8, 2006
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Re: Offset G vs. Inline G
17:22 on Thursday, June 8, 2006
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Re: Offset G vs. Inline G
21:28 on Thursday, June 8, 2006
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