Which is better?

    
Which is better?    10:05 on Saturday, October 27, 2007          

flutesrthebest
(58 points)
Posted by flutesrthebest

I'm still trying to find a new flute and I've came down to two different brands and flutes. They are both open hole, and have the b foot joint, but which brand is better Jupiter or Orpheo? Please help, Thanks!


Re: Which is better?    11:18 on Saturday, October 27, 2007          

Patrick
(1743 points)
Posted by Patrick

put on a blindfold, try both, and see which feels better and sounds easier to play for you


Re: Which is better?    15:57 on Saturday, October 27, 2007          

arabians207
(259 points)
Posted by arabians207

Have you played both of them? What I did when I was trying to narrow down flutes (it was between a Yamaha 574, Pearl Dolce CODA, and Miyazawa 202 with my hj choice, M5)

I played all of them, and had my family (and my flute teacher) all rate them and write down what they noticed about them, but they didn't know which flute was which. I also wrote down what i noticed about them (how they felt to play, how i thought they sounded etc), even when I knew which was which.

I also had my mom and my flute teacher play them when i didn't know which one was which and rated them how I liked how they sounded when they played them.


Re: Which is better?    17:15 on Saturday, October 27, 2007          

Flutist06
(1545 points)
Posted by Flutist06

Definitely play both (preferably with a blindfold and others to listen too), and see what you think. Personally I would choose a Jupiter over an Orpheo anyday, but that's just my opinion, and you may prefer the Orpheo to the Jupiter.

How did you arrive at the choice between a Jupiter and an Orpheo, though?


Re: Which is better?    17:40 on Saturday, October 27, 2007          

_TonyT-PiccoloBO
Y_

ive never heard of an orpheo, well i have but never read reviews or anything on them. But i do like jupiters. they can get a really rich lower register if you work on it. Im not really partial to there tuniing though. on mine the f natural is sharp and all of the notes are way out of wack. sort of like some piccolos!


Re: Which is better?    17:53 on Saturday, October 27, 2007          

Flutist06
(1545 points)
Posted by Flutist06

Tony, you might want to check the positioning of the head joint cork. If it's shifted from the proper position, or is leaking, it could very well effect your intonation. Most flutes of decent quality will play reasonably well in tune (with perhaps a few notes that are a bit wonky), which makes me think that it's not so much the way the flute was built, but perhaps the way you're playing it (after all, the player is the biggest factor in intonation accuracy) or some problem with the instrument that's developed over time.


Re: Which is better?    18:27 on Saturday, October 27, 2007          

_TonyT-PiccoloBO
Y_

i roll in and and and position it every way and that. it is not me I even had my band teacher, private flute teacher, and my fellow flute players, theres just something not right about the tuning.


Re: Which is better?    18:27 on Saturday, October 27, 2007          

_TonyT-PiccoloBO
Y_

i mean that they played it


Re: Which is better?    18:31 on Saturday, October 27, 2007          

Flutist06
(1545 points)
Posted by Flutist06

I'm sorry, but what does this mean?:

"i roll in and and and position it every way and that"



<Added>

If the headjoint cork is off, that would through the rest of the scale off. An accomplished player could probably still play it in tune, but it will be much harder than it needs to be.


Re: Which is better?    18:45 on Saturday, October 27, 2007          

Bilbo
(1340 points)
Posted by Bilbo

Probably not going tobe a loose cork.
Could be pad height, a minor leak in a key or just a bad design.


Re: Which is better?    18:48 on Saturday, October 27, 2007          

Flutist06
(1545 points)
Posted by Flutist06

It could be, but if the cork has moved, that may also explain intonation difficulties, and given that it's much easier to check the head cork than the key venting or leaks (particularly for someone who's not involved in the repair world), that's probably the best place to start. If it proves to be exactly where it should be, then you can move into the possibilities that require more specialized knowledge (and thus money) to check out.


   




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