open hole flutes???
open hole flutes???
23:15 on Sunday, February 1, 2009
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23:50 on Sunday, February 1, 2009
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00:10 on Monday, February 2, 2009
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03:31 on Monday, February 2, 2009
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16:32 on Monday, February 2, 2009
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16:51 on Monday, February 2, 2009
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23:48 on Monday, February 2, 2009
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15:44 on Tuesday, February 3, 2009
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Zevang (491 points)
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Like other beliefs I've heard before, the fact that the keys have a hole doesn't really affect the sound or the tone, IMHO. Though, the preference for open keys may indicate the necessity of playing glissandos or even smaller intervals like 4th and 8th of a tone.
Now, from an opposite point of view, it's said that a close hole key is capable of giving more resonance than open ones. It's explained by being the tip of our fingers somewhat soft, this could result in a sound a little (just a tiny little) buffered. So, because of the material in the center of a close hole key, the resonance is bigger inside de tube. I'm not sure if this could scientifically be proved.
When I converted to open key the first benefit I could note undoubtly was the position of my fingers. I had to discipline myself until I got accustumed to it. The time varies, but in my case this was pretty fast, because I was already playing at the orchestra as a principal.
The same questioning can be applied to an in-line or off-line G flute. It donesn't affect the sound, but concerns a personal preference regarding the size of the fingers, a better position of the arms, etc. In my case, I have relatively big fingers and arms, so have never had to use an off-line G flute.
It happens that the flute manufacturers just stated as a default building open hole flutes. I think they seem more sofisticated... I also know flautists who would never change from closed to open.
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Re: open hole flutes???
16:51 on Tuesday, February 3, 2009
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Tibbiecow (480 points)
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I always roll my eyes when I hear the statement that "An open-hole flute has a more open tone."
As Micron has just pointed out, that is absurd. If it were true, you would notice a marked tone difference between notes that require most of the holes closed- and notes that leave the key open. I haven't heard anything like this.
When you question someone about it, they will tell you that gee, when their first-chair flutist in 8th grade got a new Yamaha open-hole flute for her birthday, there was a huge difference between that flute and her Artley student flute. It isn't the open holes, it's the design of the headjoint- as they would actually notice if they had been able to put the old Artley headjoint in the open-hole-body, or vice-versa with the new headjoint in the new flute.
I simply plug the holes in my flute. If I have to play THAT high, I'll use my piccolo, thank you. I don't do microtone trills, or any other of the special effects. (Though it probably would be interesting to learn how, I don't see that I would really DO anything with them with my current musical involvement.)
If I were looking for a new flute to buy, open/closed holes would actually not be a major consideration. A closed-hole flute will bring a big discount, used. But most flutes available in the US do have open holes. I don't see a whole lot of reason to special-order closed holes, because a)they can easily be plugged and b)the resale value of an open-holed flute in the US will be higher.
It is unfortunate that people interpret closed holes, a C-footjoint, and an offset G as the marks of a student flute, while a 'better' flute must be the one with open holes, inline G and a B-footjoint. Most students can get a fabulous upgrade if they simply replace their student-flute headjoint with a handmade, pro-model headjoint. My Pearl student flute has done plenty of backup duty in our Symphony, outfitted with a headjoint that cost three times what the flute did!
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17:08 on Tuesday, February 3, 2009
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17:04 on Wednesday, February 4, 2009
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14:49 on Thursday, February 5, 2009
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16:30 on Thursday, February 5, 2009
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16:38 on Saturday, February 7, 2009
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StephenK (395 points)
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Open holes have two effects:
1. They are like butt pillows in shape and as such alleviate pressure and feedback.
2. They create an imperfect seal in which harmonics would be less dense than a closed hole flute, resulting in a clearer/purer sound effect in comparison. However one may argue that the harmonic difference is so small that it would be inaudible and that the clearer/purer sound many think they hear in an open hole flute is all in the head.
Open hole flutes are also the flutes of choice for aspiring professional flautists going to school who expect to be using advanced open hole techniques and as such many more professional flutes would be available in an open hole flute design.
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Re: open hole flutes???
15:05 on Monday, February 16, 2009
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flute_n_bassoon (309 points)
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Posted by flute_n_bassoon
Flutes with open holes are usually a sign of a high quality flute (not including chinese brands/ "no-name" brands) PErsonally, I also find that the open holes gove the flautist a louder/fuller tone in a lot of cases. In addition, the cool special effects you can do on an open holed flute are great for a rainy day. =)
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