Hey!!!, anywone have compared this flute?
Thanks

Many of my flute friends have them, I tried them often. They are not in the same league.

6000 here is below $1200, 600 is $2500.

6000 body made in China or Taiwan + head made in USA, 600 made in Japan.

6000 body terrible to me, 600 great!

6000 headjoint is powell's so called signature head (low riser), but not the same as the real Powell signature's headjoint. Coarsely made, probably made by apprentists. IMHO, tone not pure, not focused, square over and under cutting, too much overtone, not as good as the real signature head.

600 headjoint is Yamaha EC head, high riser, oval cutting. real EC head, very famous, very good tone, no need to say about it, people in the world knows EC is good head.

Thanks!!!!!,
The thing is, Im playing with a Sonare 6000, but with a Ebano headjoint, So, the question is,its worth upgrade to Yamaha 674, If I will play with the Ebano headjoint?.
I know that the mecanism is better but, U$3200 of diference..?

Why Ebano headjoint? Sonare comes with so called "Powell Signature" headjoint

http://i927.photobucket.com/albums/ad112/pyrioni15/DSC05027.jpg

I mean does it look like a real stock Powell Signature headjoint? Look at the graving. (this is my friend's Sonare)

Yes I know, but,a Luthier built a Wood Headjoint for my Sonare. And if the diameter is correct i Can use it in a new flute

Thanks Pyrioni!!!
thats an importan opinion.
Yes, I think I will keep my headjoint, The wood's sound is nice...but i don't know...play with a better flute, mecanism, is nice to,,,

Here in buenos aires, there are many luthiers who built headjoints, really good ones.

I believe that in France the word luthier can refer to any musical instument repairer or maker.

to rodrigosoco,

I know exactly what you mean, you prefer the wood headjoint your local repairman made for you. I have also a wood headjoint our local repairman made for me. It played very well with beautiful mellow wooden sound, I use it only on some orchestral cultural pieces:
http://i927.photobucket.com/albums/ad112/pyrioni15/1.jpg
http://i927.photobucket.com/albums/ad112/pyrioni15/2.jpg

Our local repairman also made a bamboo headjoint for me to play Chinese bamboo pieces with good bamboo sound, it's so pretty:
http://i927.photobucket.com/albums/ad112/pyrioni15/3.jpg
http://i927.photobucket.com/albums/ad112/pyrioni15/4.jpg


BUT, people buy Sonare for its Powell Signature headjoint (well, almost same as Signature, but not as good). Here you don't use its headjoint, but instead you use a wood headjoint? but that body of Sonare is worthless.



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Micron, some part of the world, like China and South America, people especially repairman are so good at making wood or bamboo music instruments. :)

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Here are gears ^_^

(I now frequent used)

Sankyo Artist, Yamaha 211 as backup flute, Bamoboo headjoint for Chinese pieces:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LGTzemCcyAw

The wooden headjoint has been sent to repairman for modification, I need louder sound on it, the repairman promised to cut it wider. :)

I don't know what you should do! You could buy a flute and sell the headjoint? You could sell it to a shop, as they would give you a good price for it?

BTW- Pyrioni, I saw the engraving on the sonare and it's rubbish!
Also, your bamboo HJ is very pretty!

"BTW- Pyrioni, I saw the engraving on the sonare and it's rubbish!
Also, your bamboo HJ is very pretty!"

Exactly, the engraving on the sonare headjoint is rubbish! The headjoint is also semi-rubbish. Looks like it's the work of some apprentice of Powell. It's tone is not pure, uneven.

Thanks, the bamboo HJ is so pretty

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I mean thanks Pyface :)

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On bamboo HJ, a wooden lip-plate was mounted on its EH.

Both my wood and my bamboo HJ were designed and fitted correctly with my Yamaha 211.

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Oh, also I use Hall's crystall piccolo in our orchestra for some special sounds, I ordered a special scale piccolo with HALL, Mr. and Mrs Hall are so nice, they made this special scaled piccolo for me, took them over 60 days to make it specially for me, and they sent me 2 pieces for the price of 1 ordered,lol:
http://i927.photobucket.com/albums/ad112/pyrioni15/DSC05031.jpg


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oh, pls don't ask me what scale or pitch it is, it's a secret, it's not the conventional D scale. My point is, So you see, there are many many flute makers or repairmen working very hard in this world helping orchestral flute players to do their job, admirable.

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Sorry, about the wooden headjoint, did you know, rodrigosoco, there is a kind of wood in central China, that earthquake buried an entire forest around 1000 years ago into a swamp, at bottom of a river, and recovered recently, the wood was perfectly preserved by mud, and after 1000 years of high pressure it turned the trees into half carbon and half wood, very strong, but with very clear sound/tone, but also very expensive. My wood headjoint was made with this kind of ancient carbonic wood, so its sound is very special. rodrigosoco, you can also order this kind of wood from China and ask your luthier to make a good headjoint for you. :) I also made a Chinese flute with this kind of wood(instead of bamboo)
http://i109.photobucket.com/albums/n55/Sebastianchan17/DSC00808.jpg

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This wood is much stronger than the Africa slow-growing black wood!!

6000 body made in China or Taiwan + head made in USA, 600 made in Japan.

The newer models have since been being made in Germany. Now, the even newer models are made in the US at the Powell factory. My source is Kessler's music.
http://www.kesslermusic.com/html/flutes/sonareflutes.htm

The newer bodies are very good, but the older one's that were made in China were not. I still don't care for the headjoint on them, but at least they are better than any of the Yamaha EC heads that I have played. Yamaha is not particularly noted for their headjoints.
The Miyazawa may be more money, but in my opinion after owning all the models mentioned, the Miyazawa is much superior and worth the extra cost. Another very well built one is the Miyazawa EX as previously mentioned.

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I'm sorry, I meant to say the Muramatsu EX, not Miyazawa EX.

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But, the KEYWORK is still being made inTaiwan. I wasn't aware that any of the Sonare models were ever made in Japan? If they were, I bet they would be better as the Japanese do wonderful work with flutes.

Thanks for the new info.

I didn't say Sonare 600 series made in Japan, I meant the old Yamaha 600 series were made in Japan(now not sure). The old Sonare were 5000,6000,7000 series.

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There are many EC supporters, and many people don't like EC, but I'm not gonna argue, cuz I don't like EC myself. ;) I traded my EC headjoint with my friend's GX headjoint..

Yes, your right, Muramatsu EX or GX, plays great! My cousin owns a GX that she ordered and bought in Japan. Much Cheaper and even better quality if bought in Japan.

Yes, Japanese made flutes are better in keywork.

Sorry, I thought you were referring to a Sonare 600. All these numbers! So confusing! lol!

I have had a Miyazawa with a Brogger system for a year now which is made in Japan. I agree, I think that the Japanese mechanism are superior. You play on a Sankyo now, right? What do you think of the mechanism on them? I thought they were nice and smooth like Muramatsus mechanism. It always feels to me like Boston made flutes have almost a heavier feel to their mechanism for some reason.

Yes Agree, Japanese mechanism are superior, my Sankyo is the same. But recently I found all its contact-glues are weakening, most of the felts and corks shifted and the glues are sticky. I had a concert next morning, so took it down myself the night before and glued them with superglue. They should have used stronger contact-glue or contact-cement!!

Sankyo use medium-hard pads, that makes the key response very fast and smooth, and at the same time it seals pretty good. Love Sankyo except the glues!

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Sankyo Artist's stock high-riser NRS-1 headjoint makes the sound much louder, easy to go thru difficult passages and high notes, fast response and clearer tone. But very difficult to control it and to make variations, not impossible, but need a lot of time and mastery.

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forgot to mention, it can get upto to 4th octave F# effortlessly! Becuz of its sharp headjoint cutting, high-riser, and also becuz it has a B-foot.
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