Revolutionary War Flute
00:21 on Monday, August 2, 2010
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jefe86 (3 points)
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Hi All!
New member here. I have a flute I was hoping someone could help me with. The family legend is that it belonged to a famous Captain during the American Revolutionary War. There is a lot of documentation linking things to this family (old letters, documents, deeds, etc). Does this flute look period correct from the mid to late 1700's? I have been unable to find any markings anywhere on the flute, I have gone over every spot. Maybe if someone recognizes it they could shed some light on it for me or perhaps I am looking in the wrong spot for markings. See photobucket link for pictures.
http://s1032.photobucket.com/albums/a410/jefe86/Revolutionary%20War%20Flute/
Thanks in advance for all your help.
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Re: Revolutionary War Flute
15:31 on Monday, August 2, 2010
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Bilbo (1340 points)
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.......... The family legend is that it belonged to a famous Captain during the American Revolutionary War. There is a lot of documentation linking things to this family (old letters, documents, deeds, etc). Does this flute look period correct from the mid to late 1700's? |
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Pretty much. They began adding more keys just a few years after this mid-late 1700s flute style. One issue is that there have been a lot of copies of similar flutes from that period made rather recently. On the + side, your flute looks rather used. On the - side there appears to be a crack in the head joint at the tenon and possibly the ivory ring at the head joint tenon is missing. The string idea was used on wood winds some prior to universality of cork joints. One could adjust the string with wrapping or unwrapping of it. One could 'grease' the joint with beeswax or something similar that also served to keep the string in place.
I have been unable to find any markings anywhere on the flute, I have gone over every spot. Maybe if someone recognizes it they could shed some light on it for me or perhaps I am looking in the wrong spot for markings. |
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Generally, markings wold be in similar places to modern flutes. The head joint should have something just above the tenon(Connecting to the body) on the same side as the mouth embouchure hole OR on the upper body joint between the threads and the first finger hole. There may also be something on the underside of the head joint (opposite the embouchure hole) near to the crown.
Thanks in advance for all your help. |
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Another issue that isn't representative of authenticity is the pitch.
If it's A=440 (Fingering= 120/000 D# opt.) then I'd tend to believe that it's a good, but modern copy.
If it's in a lower pitch A=395 or A=415 and the joints are warped into oval shapes then it really could be old. But I'm not saying that it is. Another issue is that many of these older flutes of this type had more than one left hand joint so that they could adjust the pitch...somewhat. If yours doesn't have other extra body joints, it means nothing really.
Here is an example of this type of flute with a few keys added:
http://www.soubeyranflutes.com/en/catalog/kirst-classique
If one were interested in playing such a flute, I'd recommend getting a copy as they are fairly well made these days. Information is readily available and there are instructors of the Traverso/Baroque Flutes.
Another question would be, Of what value is this instrument? Probably not much unless it were owned by a very famous historical individual. Someone in my distant family has a spiral-shaped wood cane with G.W.'s initials on it. It was given to an ancestor who was a personal cook at Valley Forge for the General. I never heard if it was of any value.
~bilbo
N.E. Ohio
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Re: Revolutionary War Flute
21:25 on Tuesday, August 3, 2010
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Re: Revolutionary War Flute
06:13 on Wednesday, August 4, 2010
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Bilbo (1340 points)
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I'd recommend searching the Dayton C. Miller Flute Collection at the Library of Congress. |
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Hi Musicman_944,
I would have also suggested the DCM collection but their web setup isn't "Link Friendly". One could mention a few makers such as F.G.A. Kirst for a starting point of a maker of a typical style.
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Re: Revolutionary War Flute
08:34 on Wednesday, August 4, 2010
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Re: Revolutionary War Flute
11:33 on Sunday, August 8, 2010
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Re: Revolutionary War Flute
14:01 on Friday, August 13, 2010
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