Plating Wear / Oxidation
01:56 on Monday, February 6, 2012
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Re: Plating Wear / Oxidation
03:36 on Monday, February 6, 2012
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Re: Plating Wear / Oxidation
11:51 on Monday, February 6, 2012
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jduncmusic (22 points)
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I generally use flitz polish. I've never had an issue with rubbing through plating.
But that's besides the fact, because the plating wear on this flute wasn't caused by me!
I was assuming that was the answer I would get as far as replacing the silver goes, but I figured it was worth the ask to see if someone else knew something I was unaware of. Worst case scenario, I return the flute and call it a day.
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Re: Plating Wear / Oxidation
16:21 on Monday, February 6, 2012
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Re: Plating Wear / Oxidation
16:28 on Monday, February 6, 2012
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Re: Plating Wear / Oxidation
11:18 on Tuesday, February 7, 2012
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musicman_944 (257 points)
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I would bet that the discoloration is from a poor solder job. If the barrel came off and was soldered to reattach it to the body, it's very possible that an inept repair tech or amateur soldered it back on. When solder is heated, it will often run to places other than the joint where you want it. A good tech will take precautions to prevent that from happening. Once solder is on silver, it's almost impossible to remove it, especially on plated surfaces. Solid sterling silver can be lightly buffed to remove the solder, but with silver plating, you will likely buff through the plating before all the solder is removed.
Since the 584 is plated, about the only fix is to replate the affected area. If you got the flute for a good low price, you might try using a Caswell Plug-n-Plate brush plating system to replate silver over the discolored area. The kit costs about $50 and is easy to use. More info here:
http://www.caswellplating.com/kits/plugnplate.htm
After brush plating, the silver surface will often turn black, but this is normal and the black oxidation can be removed with ordinary silver polish.
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Re: Plating Wear / Oxidation
14:13 on Tuesday, February 7, 2012
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jduncmusic (22 points)
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Thanks for all the info!
It's definitely not a soldering issue. It literally looks like someone spilled some sort of liquid on the flute that had a chemical compound that would immediately discolor the plating. Never seen it before. But in the end I decided to return it. I figured, I could either play around with it and get it cleaned up for a price, play around with it and fail for a price, or try to sell as is at a low price (which might take longer than it typically does for a flute to sell and for less $$). Just wasn't worth the risk!
If anyone is interested in a Yamaha 584 with some cosmetic defects for about $1000 + shipping + 3% paypal fees, let me know asap. It needs a COA, but if someone wanted it right now, I'd sell it as is. Otherwise, it's going back tomorrow. :P
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Re: Plating Wear / Oxidation
00:56 on Thursday, February 9, 2012
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Re: Plating Wear / Oxidation
01:52 on Thursday, February 9, 2012
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jduncmusic (22 points)
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Did you look at the photos? I don't think it was from buffing. I've never seen wear like this before. Maybe you can help me so I can learn since you've projected yourself as someone who has some knowledge. I'm really pretty humble. I'll tell you that there is tons I DON'T know about flutes that many of you on this forum probably do. I'm happy to be the newbie... no attitude here. I started turning over flutes about a year ago when I was looking for an instrument for myself, so only a year into it, I still have a lot to learn. I've really had a great time doing it- the kids I meet are super, plus I get to try out lots of models! If time allows I plan to keep doing it, though once wedding season kicks in I'll be back to gigging (I play piano and flute with a small ensemble), so the flutes will take a back seat.
As far as the pricing- If you'd noticed, when I put $1025 + shipping, it wasn't including paypal fees since the $25 would cover most of the fees (you probably just misread). I posted on the other site after the vendor offered me a discount if I kept the flute (I'd rather be transparent than deceptive, here), hence the price difference. So the price you saw there applies here as well. I'm sorry if my post was offensive. I wasn't looking to profit off anyone... I offered it for sale as more of a "just in case anyone wants this, it's available". If no one wants it, I really don't care since it can be returned. I'm not offering it as a "vendor" who is selling a flute for profit (trust me, it would be more than $1000 if I were- that's a darn good price for a 584 from what I've seen).
So if you want, just ignore my post and pretend it never happened. I hadn't realized it would be so unwelcome!! But I guess with every new community you enter, there is a learning curve. My apologies to anyone on this forum who was bothered by it. And to those who weren't, I appreciate your grace!
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Re: Plating Wear / Oxidation
02:20 on Thursday, February 9, 2012
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