clarinet reeds?

    
clarinet reeds?    21:38 on Thursday, September 20, 2007          

clarinet2
(41 points)
Posted by clarinet2

I need to know what is the differance between rico 1 and a half and rico 2 is one better more effective better sounding?


Re: clarinet reeds?    21:58 on Thursday, September 27, 2007          

StephenClarinet
(12 points)
Posted by StephenClarinet

I have only used a 2 and a 3. I prefer 3 to a 2, but a 2 is still good.


Re: clarinet reeds?    18:18 on Monday, October 1, 2007          

laeta_puella
(344 points)
Posted by laeta_puella

the higher the number of the reed, the stiffer the reed is. a stiffer reed does not neccesarily mean it's better, or you're a better player, usually as your embochure strengthens and develops you change strengths in order to get hte best tone. I know clarinetists in my band who use 2 and a halves and clarinetists who use 4's, and that doesnt mean one person is better than the other. use what works best for you.



Re: clarinet reeds?    20:40 on Friday, January 11, 2008          

trouthat
(56 points)
Posted by trouthat

im not trying to be mean or anything but you could buy lets say one reed a week from rico,or once a month from van dorne (i dont think i spelled it right)


Re: clarinet reeds?    02:48 on Saturday, January 19, 2008          

alxx
(60 points)
Posted by alxx

I agree with trouthat, you just need to try a few different reeds and see what suits you and the mouthpiece you are using.


Re: clarinet reeds?    13:47 on Tuesday, April 8, 2008          

SEAGOVILLE_CLARI
NET

Well I have a new kind of reed you probually havent even heard of before...Its a synthetic reed and its made completely out of synthetic material...its clear...there 15$ each but dont let the price get to you...they last for about 6 to 9 months (just one) and there are by lergie reeds so go try a google it and see what you think...I love them!!!


Re: clarinet reeds?    01:21 on Wednesday, April 9, 2008          

frankgorgonzola
(9 points)
Posted by frankgorgonzola

I am new to the clarinet and I've been wondering the same thing. I checked out the Vandoern and they have a chart of their mouthpieces and what reed is recommended for them. Generally the larger the tip opening the thiner the reed.

websitehttp://www.vandoren.com/en/ANIM/index.html

<Added>

I meant to say "Vandoren website"


Re: clarinet reeds?    15:56 on Wednesday, April 9, 2008          

laeta_puella
(344 points)
Posted by laeta_puella

:raises hand: not a fan of synthetic reeds.


Re: clarinet reeds?    07:54 on Thursday, April 10, 2008          

clarinetqueen11
(3 points)
Posted by clarinetqueen11

hey, I wasn't a fan of synthetic reeds either until someone gave me a legere reed. much better than the fibracell reeds i had tried before.

To awnser your question, the higher the number of the reed, the harder or stronger it is. I would talk to your private lessons teacher (if you have one) or band director if you are confused about which reeds to buy. Which strenth reed you should use usally depends on how long you have been playing, the strenth of your embouchure (the muscles around your mouth), and the tip opening of your mouthpiece. Also, I would highly recomend a better breand of reeds (such as vandoren) than the rico reeds you have been using. It is best to use high quality reeds even when you are just starting out because altough they are a little more expesive, they last longer, so in the long run they are worth the money. They also sound beter and will help you to develop a nice tone quality at as a beginner.


Re: clarinet reeds?    09:43 on Thursday, April 10, 2008          

dickdona
(308 points)
Posted by dickdona

Has anyone heard of Claripatch. Has anyone used them?
My teacher won't let me use VanDoran. She insists on Rico. I find Rico brighter. Especially the black plastic coated one. Supposed to be for high humidity areas. But they sound kinda jazzy to me.


Re: clarinet reeds?    03:22 on Sunday, April 13, 2008          

wilsonnkwan
(1 point)
Posted by wilsonnkwan

Range normally from 1 - 5, depending on kind of music played, clarinet players should have a combination of different mouthpiece and reeds.
Jazz clarinetist should use a big tip opening, long facing with soft reeds.

People tend to go higher and higher in strength is simply because stiffer reeds produce a more stable tone in the higher register. I am sure that all of your tutors agree that it is easier to reach a high note on a strength 4 than a strength 2.

Beginners should start soft with open tip mouthpiece while advancing and advance players can try stronger reeds and closer tip mouthpiece.

3 things that will affect the tone of a clarinet is the mouthpiece, the reed and the ligature. (not to mention the clarinet itself, but nothing much you can do about it unless you repad the whole thing with Goretex pads and change to better materials).

If your clarinet is your speaker, then your mouthpiece is your mic, a good speaker with a bad sounding mic will not produce good sound. Personally i would recommend beginners to try on plastic mouthpiece first but plastic mouthpiece not much to control. If they wanna upgrade, go for a hard rubber one. Selmer, Leblanc and Vandoren produce fairly good mouthpieces. I have been using a Vandoren B45 for 6 years but then because I advance until I play a strength 4 now, so have to upgrade to mouthpiece with closer tip. Now I am using a Vandoren M13 lyre mouthpiece, i must say it produce a fairly centred tone.
Personally, if you can afford it, you might wanna try pyne mouthpiece or bay mouthpiece, these are handfinish mouthpiece, they have been extensively tested before sold. Played on one of them before, it sounded so nice and so much easier to play. but the price is double of M13 lyre.

Ligatures, this is important. an ideal ligature can hold the reed in place yet exert the slightest uniform pressure on the reed so that the reed can vibrate freely. You must realise, the reed does not stop vibrating when it reach the mouthpiece. The whole reed vibrates together. Personally, if you want to sound bright, go for a metal mouthpiece but should your metal mouthpiece goes out of shape, then good bye to it, because once it goes out of shape, the slightest screwing will cause the reed to go our of place. Leather mouthpiece are good but then they still do not exert uniform pressure but still good enough for students. Before the invention of ligatures, clarinetist use strings to tie their reeds but it's kind of troublesome. nowadays, the close to ideal mouthpiece, it's fairly simple. According to David Pino - author of The clarinet and clarinet playing, he said velcro is good. one strip tying across is fairly ideal for the mouthpiece. I tried, I think it's rather good. He suggested the ideal method is use flat shoe strings. Have not try that, but will try. You guys might wanna try a pyne clarion handwoven ligature. It is simillar to shoe string method but it's easier to tweak the tone of the reed. Here is a small tweak you can try. For 2 screws ligature or ligature where you can adjust the pressure of the upper and lower part of the ligature, exert more pressure at lower part will produce a darker tone while more pressure on the top will produce a brighter tone.

Reeds, the most important part. if you choose the wrong but functional mouthpiece, you can still make sound, just harder. if you choose the wrong ligature, you just have a different tone. If you choose the wrong reed, you will sound terrible or does not make a sound at all.
Personally, i will not go for neither Rico royal or Vandoren. Simply because out of a box of 10, i can only choose may be 3 if you are lucky that sound good, others need extra work to be done. I had once threw a whole box away because they all sound terrible. Currently, I will only go for either
Gonzalez
http://www.gonzalezreeds.com/index.php?page=eng-home

or Zondas. I am currently trying Rico Reserve, the first one sounded extremely well though, but i do not know the rest.
Back to Gonzalez, the FOF - for our friends reed has a thicker heart which will allow you to produce a fairly darker tone. It sounded so dark when i was play E lucevan le Stelle in Tosca, so nice. You can use the regular cut if you want a brigher sound. The results, I have tried 10 reeds so far, only one of them failed because I accidentally chipped it.

If you want good reeds, play on hand select reeds and one advice, must break in your reeds before you can consistently play on the reed. Do not use one single reed for practice for the whole month, your reed wont last 2 weeks if you play on it everyday for 2 hours.
For information on how to choose reeds and break in correctly, you may want to look at the following site.

http://members.tripod.com/~Jean_Johnson/reeds.html

(Jean Johnson is a professional Clarinetist)

Regarding synthetic reeds, I am not against it. just have not try enough to say anything. So far they can make quite a good tone but adjustments are hard to be done on the reed.

Good luck on playing the clarinet.

Actually the barrel does affect the tone in an indirect way, some barrel's tapering design may affect the ease of blowing, so if you choose the correct barrel, it will enchance your tone.




<Added>

Regarding ClariPatch, actually it does work somewhat. But I seldom use since I have found the correct reed to the correct mouthpiece.


Re: clarinet reeds?    16:59 on Saturday, April 26, 2008          

tmheimer
(76 points)
Posted by tmheimer

Here's my 2 cents: Am not a fan of any of the Rico Reeds. My tone with them just not that good. I tried Leger synthetics and also am not a fan. Tried most reeds available in the '70s and always came back to Vandoren, though you only find one or 2 out 10 that are really great. There are a million ligatures, including the string with wax, which I tried. I settled on the Bonade. I know the idea is to have as little restriction possibleholding the reed on the mouthpiece, but I just don't think any of the wild new ligatures that have come out over the years make enough of a difference to worry about it. The ligature still has to pin the reed to the MP face to make it all work.


Re: clarinet reeds?    18:59 on Saturday, April 26, 2008          

laeta_puella
(344 points)
Posted by laeta_puella

^I like Bonade ligatures, too. I have an inverted for soprano and a standard for bass- I can't really tell, does inverted vs standard make any difference?

I'm also a fan of Gonzolas reeds. I like that they come in quarter steps, also.


Re: clarinet reeds?    10:28 on Tuesday, June 24, 2008          

tenorsaxist
(925 points)
Posted by tenorsaxist

IF I WERE YOU DICKDON, THEN I WOULD TRY VANDOREN, THEY PLAY MUCH BETTER. TELL YOUR CLARINET INSTRUCTOR THAT YOU PAW THEM, NOT THE OTHER WAY AROUND, SO I WOULD TRY THEM! Rico is a tad too bright for me, because I am a dark/classical player. Also, I am not a synthetic fan, considering they dont sound as natural as cane. Good Luck
Beetlejuice

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Whoops, meant "you pay them, not the other way around"


Re: clarinet reeds?    16:47 on Friday, July 4, 2008          

clarinetsrule22
(2 points)
Posted by clarinetsrule22

the diffrance is ones thicker and if you have bad emoachoce youd better stick with 1and a half


   








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