Need some help for my bassoon please.

    
Need some help for my bassoon please.    11:19 on Tuesday, January 2, 2007          

Bassoon27
(53 points)
Posted by Bassoon27

Hi guys and Ladies(sorry),

I wonder where can I find Bassoon series number or other bassoon history for website? My series number is M4010, Lark of China. 23 Keys and brown wood.

Any idea what you think how much Lark is from past? This Bassoon I bought is Johnny Roadhouse, Manchester and cost £750.

Thank you very much.
Martyn


Re: Need some help for my bassoon please.    20:21 on Tuesday, January 2, 2007          

bassoonperson
(2 points)
Posted by bassoonperson

Ehhhhh
Tis a toughie.
Are you sure about the quality?
I've heard that these east-asian brands are cheap, and wont easily be fixed


Re: Need some help for my bassoon please.    22:20 on Tuesday, January 2, 2007          

Hekl-is-overrate
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If it's a Chinese bassoon therein lies a dilema.
From my bassoon teacher (I'm sorry to tell this to you) but most are very bad quality. East Asian bassoons, majority of them, are not good at all, Yamaha is exempt from the category of bad bassoons, but I apologize for the delivery of this news to yourn ear.


Re: Need some help for my bassoon please.    17:34 on Wednesday, January 3, 2007          

Bassoon27
(53 points)
Posted by Bassoon27

Well, Im not sure about quality on my bassoon tho, Bassoonperson My bassoon is not very good quality cost £750

I know, I forgive you yeah well I will get new bassoon like Schreiber or Puchner, maybe Mosmann...I don't know


Re: Need some help for my bassoon please.    17:38 on Wednesday, January 3, 2007          

Bassoon27
(53 points)
Posted by Bassoon27

Hekl-is-overrated,

I forgive you, Yes it is China make honestly, Hekl they make cheap bassoon yeah, you're right. because my bassoon with F low not good and not properly shut it and noise sound like fart heheheh HAHAH sorry mate. Anyway I need good money for new Bassoon.

Cheers and thank for advisor, Hekl

Martyn


Re: Need some help for my bassoon please.    05:47 on Thursday, January 4, 2007          

Hekl-is-overrate
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No problem.

Foxs are spectacular (201) as well as Moosmann. Schreiber IIRC (maybe it was Kohlert) was bought over by a Chinese Company and thus aren't too great of an idea. Puchner will end up costing more than a Fox if you get one.

Penzel Mueller is great too, however, I still vote for Fox 201.
Hope this helps.


Re: Need some help for my bassoon please.    03:02 on Friday, January 5, 2007          

contra448
(771 points)
Posted by contra448

What's all this about Schreiber being bought by a Chinese company?

I know that over recent years there have been lots of changes to the old Boosey & Hawkes group & their successors but I'm sure this is just a rumour. Indeed a couple of years ago a friend of mine got hold of this story & was threatened with court action for spreading it around!

Ian


Re: Need some help for my bassoon please.    14:57 on Friday, January 5, 2007          

Hekl-is-overrate
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I was wrong and you are right. I believe it was kohlert.


Re: Need some help for my bassoon please.    05:22 on Monday, January 8, 2007          

Ruth88
(168 points)
Posted by Ruth88

You went to Johnny Roadhouse to buy a bassoon?? i'm sorry if this comes across as rude at all, but you've gotta expect not to get a brilliant quality bassoon from them - they're more of a general music shop that specialise in guitars - that's why they have a good two floors of guitars and only one for everything else! If you want accessories for your bassoon like... a floor protector if you play with a spike, or a sling, or a seat strap, or anything like that, Johnny Roadhouse will do you, but for something as specialist as a bassoon you need to go to Howarths in London. They will be considerably more expensive than your £750 instrument, but if you want something good then you've got to be prepared to spend a bit. Howarths are a woodwind specialist, they have many instruents that you can try out at varying prices, and you can take your time deciding which is suited to you.

Having said that, £750 for a bassoon, even if it's poor quality, is pretty good for a bassoon i must admit.


Re: Need some help for my bassoon please.    17:40 on Monday, January 8, 2007          

Bassoon27
(53 points)
Posted by Bassoon27

Yes, that's right Ruth

I did for £750 in Johnny Roadhouse in Oxford Road, Manchester.

I don't know why I bought this Bassoon lol, Sorry

One more thing I like to ask a question.

I have a problem with E plate keys is not shut the crook properly any idea why? maybe the pad inside the metal key melting or something? If you don't understand my english question, I can't make a good english question, Is anyone can understand my question?

Thank you for your patient.

Cheers, Martyn


Re: Need some help for my bassoon please.    03:39 on Tuesday, January 9, 2007          

contra448
(771 points)
Posted by contra448

A number of reasons why the E plate doesn't close the crook key.

1. The E & crook pads have compressed over time
2. The cork or sleeving has fallen off the arms that connect the E key to the wing joint & from the thumb crook touchpiece to the crook pad key.
3. The arms have become bent - easily done on these Chinese instruments with soft keys.
4. You are not being careful when assembling the instrument & the wing joint is not aligned properly in the it's socket.

Maybe the bassoon needs to be checked over by a competent repairer.

I was shown a new Chinese bassoon recently by a dealer who is thinking of importing the things. I reckon it would need a days work on it to get it working mechanically working satisfactorily before even being able to get an idea of it's musical abilities.

Ian


Re: Need some help for my bassoon please.    08:32 on Tuesday, January 9, 2007          

Bassoon27
(53 points)
Posted by Bassoon27

Oh well, Ian. I guess you're right

My bassoon is rubbish lol though Bassoon can't be reapir like you said at the above. I think I need new one bassoon maybe leave Puchner for now, why not I buy Schreiber 5071 something like that or Moosmann maybe. I will get lottery wednesday or friday, Saturday Hopefully, :lol:

Thank you for explained about that, Ian

Cheers, Martyn

P.S One thing I forget is the Nut screw into the line connect to the keys of E plate if you know what I mean? that's might the problem what you think, Ian?


Re: Need some help for my bassoon please.    03:51 on Wednesday, January 10, 2007          

contra448
(771 points)
Posted by contra448

Sorry Martyn don't follow you there

Ian


Re: Need some help for my bassoon please.    05:49 on Wednesday, January 10, 2007          

Ruth88
(168 points)
Posted by Ruth88

Don't worry, that happens to loads of instuments. Just wrap a bit of paper round the right bit and that will help seal everything properly. Dunno how to describe the right bit though :S
I don't understand your second question either.


Re: Need some help for my bassoon please.    10:44 on Wednesday, January 10, 2007          

Bassoon27
(53 points)
Posted by Bassoon27

Ian, Ruth

Ian, I'm sorry you don't understand me my english, Apologise.

Ruth, Example if you see the nuts, like you bring screwdriver on the what? similar nails oh when you want new switch the light you put the small object on the walls with screwdriver, Anyting help you understand? ,

Thank you, Ruth and Ian

Martyn


   








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