Hello,

Sorry I know this is a late posting ... but I have to reply.

I didnt read all your posted replies but I hear you want to write a happy anthem type song. The best way to write a style that isnt what you are used to is to saturate yourself with the sound you want. Yes of course the first lot of lyrics you churned out will sound exactly like what you`ll have listened to BUT eventually you start to find your own vioce. Just think back to when you first started to write words, first as a kid you copied, then as you grew older you began to write. Same thing applies. As for writing depressing songs I do that to, infact I have had exactly the same problem as you. You know lines like worms of hatred pubating in your heart, life is what you dread... Another good technoque is to challenge yourself with topic matter. For example me and my friend used to play a game where she would pick a subject and I would sing three verses and a chorus within ten minutes. Very funny. Good luck.

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Dude ur lyrics are great, i`ve been in a band 4 about 4 years, we played at Reading last year, u may hav depressing lyrics but then write a happy melody, so it`s upbeat, thas how i write happy songs, i hope i helped.

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i made this up along time ago to help me write songs when i had no ideas use if you like
iron?s
S/l concept
1. what?s the style of the song would you like it to be?
a. country (go to #2)
b. rock (got to #2)
c. comedy (go to #9)
d. r&b (go to #2)
e. hip-hop (go to #11)
f. blues (go to #4)
g. metal (go to #5)
2. whats the overral feeling do you want the song to have?
a. love (go to #6)
b. hate (go to #5)
c. sadness (go to #4)
3.whats the tempo(speed) that you want the song to he?
a. slow
b. fast
4. what?s the subject on sadness do you want it to be?
a. broken pride
b. suicidal
c. feeling lost in life
d. being ridiculed
e. not mattering into anything
f. being a failure
g. feeling left out
h. feeling heart ache
i. cant live without
5.whats the subject on hate do you want it to be?
a. the nightmare within
b. the pain within
c. show casing your insanity to the world
d. all has to end
e. revenge
f. betrayal on the homestead
g. judgment of you
h. being taken over by other force
i. tired of everything
j. about the evil side of things
k. never agains
l. slipping into the pits of hell
m. misery
n. the struggle within
o. feeling invincible against the world
p. no justice
q. worship
6. what?s the subject on love do you want it to be?
a. blinded
b. want it
c. lust it
d. lost one
e. crazy for it
f. feeling the relationship coming to and end, only for a new love to come in
g. moved on
h. feeling heartache
i. cant live without
j. lost without
k. feeling alone when they?re gone
7. what group/artist/or band do you want this song to feel like had an influence
on it?

8.whats your favorite song of this group/band/or artist?
9. what?s the subject on comedy do you want it to be? (go to #10)
a. making fun of a famous person
b. making fun of own self
c. straight up goofy
d. song with jokes in it
10.who?s the person you want the song to be about?

11. what?s the subject on hip-hop do you want it to be?
a. how large you are to the world
b. how you?re the Mac of the hood
c. how your sound is the ****
d. about being the player of the party
e. about the struggle of getting out of the hood
f. about pimpin/bling-bling
g. ganksta rap
h. partying with the ladies/men

Hey man, and ladies e.t.c change to PC talk if needs must. Just been checking out the site again. Interesstttingg. Like the man says write about your car... that is like the best thing I read here. GUSH GUSH. Also try different styles with different music. The funniest song I ever heard was titled "Blew his load all over the road" about prem ejac, done in a sweet ballard style. Cant write happy, write funny. BTW whats so bad about life, I had a sh*t childhood love metal, love depressing stuff but also can just trip out on the way the sun slices through the tree`s lighting magical spots NO I DONT TAKE DRUGS just all those knocks to the head! And if its that bad think about how you would really want it to feel like describe, dream, and live. Oh and FYI songs about how you`ll never live without so and so, or that your love for so and so is the only reason for living is not only overdone but sounds OCD.So dont fall into the trap peoples. I`m not 12 either and I like Marilyn`s music, he himself seems try hard at times tho.Sometimes I think there is not enough goths and too much pop.But the person who says get the feeling is right, thats why I like Marilyn, he`s got a strong sound and lets everything rip.

heres something u no how one of the replies said turn a bad experiance into finding something good. Well I did a song kinda like that.It`s sweet ballard style made to follow after a hard edge.I like things set up differently

Morphing into one
All the colours under the sun
The happiness finally found
In the darkest places baby
In the darkest places

Went down to look at me
Turned within So I could see
The pretty changes
The changes in me
And I’m morphing into something sweet

They try to sell me
All sorts of insecurities
They try to split me
Away from the parts of myself
But I now know something else

Life is currently sweet
I’m morphing
Life has never been cheap
And I’m morphing

Its about people who have had crap childhoods u no and people are always calling them victems and stuff, like thats spose to explain something. Anyway it`s about not taking all of that stuff on board and just letting yourself be whatever it is you are. Not a victem, not just a girl or a boy, or a sister, brother mum,dad,son, blah blah you no, no labels just you and appreciating the fact that you grow and enjoying that change as it happens. You no from no control to control from kid to adult, from dead to alive.mmmmm

Hey, this is my first time on these forums. I`m 16 and in a rock band. Well I`ve been tryin to write lyrics to a girl (I know this story has been told before but oh well) I have strong feelings for here but she lives about 3hrs away. Im tryin to write a song that i can record and send to her but the lyrics that i come up with are to scattered. Any suggestions?

Hey Coolest Loser,

Maybe just write down everything, then try editing. Ripping out bits you dont like, rewriting things in different ways etc. There is also the line of thought that says create a story line, i.e

First verse: describe her, state situation, state what it is you are trying to say.
Second verse: Expand on what your are trying to say

and so on.

Such as;

The sweetest thing I ever did taste, in an everlasting state of grace, gently falling into soft (some color) eyes, I wepted in overwhelmed surprise, to feel so deeply this emotion, I say you have my heart, and soul in commotion

I`ve been taken over by you, I`ve been surrendered in this war, love has shown me a way, to lose myself just to gain a llok, from the angel three hours away

Scratted words with my heart in control, cant seem to make much sense, I just cant find words that describe you, there`s nothing else in the my universe

you know blah blah blah (sorry about the over the top rythming!) Depending on how soppy you want to get. Probably shouldnt have song words down makes it harder for you

Just a few points or opinions, to a certain extent you can use unhappy lyrics and write a happy bouncy melody, which although it sounds stupid can end up contradicting itself and although you have just given birth to a cliche, you may, if you listen closely have turned the happy melody into a dark melody. I don`t like name dropping but lots of bands use this method. Call it cheese on toast or whatever you like but Blink 182 use this method quite alot, as do Green day. You have to understand that just as people grow and mature then obviously itsa going to be expressed in their music. Listen to early blink stuff and compare it to the latest album thats dropped, immediatly everyone will fly off the handle and brand it commercial and therefore diss it straight away. Remember, for a band to exist in this society, requires money! Good luck with the songwriting, and if its depressing then use minor chords or try modifying chords the way you want it to sound, remember its your art.
chow

hey i hated the song lyrics probably because i don`t know the tune but i and my friend r starteing a band but we don`t know how 2 really make the songs good so ppl will listen to them, can you help us?

Your songs is awsome!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I wish i could write like that!!!!!!!!!!!!
Mimi

i think these are pretty useless, but anycase does any1 else fav any thoughts on them, cheerz

I get a dying urge to feel the way you do
Sticks onto to me like crazy glue
I get a reckless urge, to break this reality
Get visions of the things that are to be
I can’t deal with it, dunno what to do
I need you to help get me through

Carelessly trapped in eternity
dying a minor formality
So I run out in a storm
Kiss the rain under an electrical sky
Now the conspiracy has form
It’ll take any risks can’t you see
It’s just the way it has to be

I get a careless urge flash across my mind
Close encounters of the stranger kind
A strong urge to trust what I once saw
Wasn’t conjured by my brain, I have to know more
That what I saw that fateful night
Was real, not a fantasy

Carelessly trapped in eternity
dying a minor formality to me
I wanna run out in a storm
Kiss the rain under an electrical sky
Now the conspiracy has form
It’ll take any risks can’t you see
It’s just the way it has to be

In visions of these things to be
I’m not there, maybe I can’t see
In this new formed conspiracy
Will I find the real me
Be able to set my soul free
Come back down to reality
Is this the way it’s meant to be

I guess I’ll have to wait & see

hey, on the subject of listeniing to classical music to relax before song writing(which someone was earlier, honest!) there is no shame in listening to a wide range of music, you dont have to be an angry depressed youth to enjoy all the heavy stuff. a person with wider tastes in music has wider horizons than those around them.

i think that if you are writing lyrics for your average teen, depressing songs are perfect. The depressing lyrics have somehow always helped me vent my anger away from other people, myself, and also my belongings

Also, I have just started writing songs and i need help figuring out a good melody to stick the lyrics with, or hints on how to throw a good rock melody together, cuz ive always sucked at song writing. pleaze help