Juilliard
00:49 on Sunday, December 18, 2005
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(Cameron)
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I was wondering if anybody can give me an estimate of how many flute players get accepted into Juilliard as undergraduates. I have no idea, so any estimate would help.
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Re: Juilliard
09:13 on Sunday, December 18, 2005
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(Patrick)
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probably 3-5 a year
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Re: Juilliard
16:03 on Sunday, December 18, 2005
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(First_Chair_Flutist)
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I was wondering too. Thanks.
I wish I could go there...but I highly doubt I would even be considered!!
I only know two people who got accepted and they are both very talented (one plays percussion, the other violin).
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Re: Juilliard
19:44 on Sunday, December 18, 2005
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(Kara)
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Just keep in mind that it is possible to become professional on the flute with out going to college.
I have nothing against college, but I have seen people come out of there that don`t play much better then an average high school student.
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Re: Juilliard
20:07 on Sunday, December 18, 2005
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(erg)
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I was wondering if anybody can give me an estimate of how many flute players get accepted into Juilliard as undergraduates. I have no idea, so any estimate would help.
I can tell you right now, you won`t be one of them.
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Re: Juilliard
20:10 on Sunday, December 18, 2005
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(First_Chair_Flutist)
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How does one get into Julliard?
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Re: Juilliard
21:07 on Sunday, December 18, 2005
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(Kara)
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Erg, that wasn`t a very nice thing to say. Why would you say something like that?
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Re: Juilliard
21:19 on Sunday, December 18, 2005
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(Emmy)
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I would assume not very many, because only two trumpets get in per year, and trumpet is a very popular instrument (at least around here!). If you plan on auditioning, then I wish you the best of luck!
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Re: Juilliard
13:23 on Monday, December 19, 2005
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(First_Chair_Flutist)
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Flutes are very competive here!!
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Re: Juilliard
16:18 on Monday, December 19, 2005
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(Dotted Quarter Note)
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Hi Cameron!
I think it is great that you want to further your musical education by at least checking into one of the most prestigious schools in the US involving the fine arts.
As a previous poster stated, it is not necessary to complete a higher education to become a "professional" flutist, however in this day and age it is nearly imperative to have a degree from a higher learning educational institute in order to find employment in a specialized job market.
Kudos to you for at acknowledging that there are chances out there to learn more and for at least checking in to the opportunities.
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Re: Juilliard
16:23 on Monday, December 19, 2005
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(Kara)
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"As a previous poster stated, it is not necessary to complete a higher education to become a "professional" flutist, however in this day and age it is nearly imperative to have a degree from a higher learning educational institute in order to find employment in a specialized job market."
True, but I guess I am one of the very few then because I have not had a problem with it.
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Re: Juilliard
20:33 on Monday, December 19, 2005
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(Patrick)
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Kara is correct, all that matters is how you play. The advantage of any good school is the connections and resulting connections, plus good schools may carry more weight in getting in to an audition, my best work has come from college connections, but my degree is just a piece of paper
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Re: Juilliard
21:00 on Monday, December 19, 2005
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(Dotted Quarter Note)
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I do agree with you to an extent Patrick, with one exception. In this day, any college degree will help you land a job (not necessarily just in the music field), so I personally do not feel like young adults should be discouraged from a higher level educational institute jsut because there are some people who happen to land professional jobs playing an instrument.
For instance, what qualifies one as a professional flutist? I would think the standard definition of that answer would be getting paid to play the flute for a living. However, there are many different ways to get paid for playing an instrument.
My personal definition of it would be someone who is paid to play in a widely known ensamble (meaning widely known for their area), a person who teaches lessons as their full time (or nearly full time) income, or someone who has the means and resources to produce, record, and sell their own albums. You certainly do not have to have a degree to do any of those things. However, I personally feel pushing for something more, like that little piece of paper, gives an edge over people without it.
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Re: Juilliard
08:50 on Tuesday, December 20, 2005
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(Patrick)
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I am not discounting a music degree, just don`t rely on it to get work as a performer. I did get theory, sightsinging, eartraing, history, ensemble playing and tons of performing experience in those 4 years, so it was definitely worth it, plus I was a party animal and had lots of fun...
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Re: Juilliard
18:38 on Wednesday, December 21, 2005
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(Marian)
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Last year, a flute student who studied with the same teacher as my son does, was one of about 10 combined undergraduate and graduate flutists allowed to audition for possible slots. Only 1 graduate flutist was accepted. No undergraduates were. She was accepted at all other schools she applied to.
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