sore throat
17:08 on Sunday, May 28, 2006
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vert_jaune_rouge (12 points)
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Posted by vert_jaune_rouge
Is it normal for the throat to get sore when playing high notes. I've got two teachers. One tells me yes, the other (more experienced) tells me know.
I was told that my throat shouldn't get contracted at all as I'm blowing. Same for my lips, they should always remain relaxed.
I'm trying to change my habits, but still get pain...
Any idea?
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Re: sore throat
17:45 on Sunday, May 28, 2006
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Re: sore throat
18:19 on Sunday, May 28, 2006
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vert_jaune_rouge (12 points)
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Posted by vert_jaune_rouge
yes i have asthma, and I sometimes hear grunts. I'm trying to change my have my throat open, but I never realise when it gets tight, unless it hurts or unless I see my veins when I look in the mirror. In what way does asthma contribute to that?
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Re: sore throat
18:33 on Sunday, May 28, 2006
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Re: sore throat
18:36 on Sunday, May 28, 2006
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Re: sore throat
18:41 on Sunday, May 28, 2006
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vert_jaune_rouge (12 points)
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Posted by vert_jaune_rouge
thanks. By 'more experienced', I meant a more experienced player and a more experienced teacher.
I think I do put the air in my abdomen, but I kind of block it with my throat because I'm afraid to lose air before I started blowing. I don't know how to control the air stream without my throat I suppose. I guess I have to play with my diaphragm a bit more
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Re: sore throat
18:53 on Sunday, May 28, 2006
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Re: sore throat
01:34 on Monday, May 29, 2006
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Re: sore throat
03:03 on Monday, May 29, 2006
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vert_jaune_rouge (12 points)
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Posted by vert_jaune_rouge
I only developed asthma recently, 8 months ago, but need my inhaler everyday now. Thinking about it, my throat never used to hurt while playing the flute before I got asthma.
This must be the reason then
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Re: sore throat
05:59 on Monday, May 29, 2006
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Re: sore throat
06:39 on Monday, May 29, 2006
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vert_jaune_rouge (12 points)
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Posted by vert_jaune_rouge
so you're saying that I should use my lips muscles? My tone is better and clearer when I use them, but I've started trying to get rid of this habit.
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Re: sore throat
08:20 on Monday, May 29, 2006
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Bilbo (1340 points)
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i'm saying that there are some lip muscles that should be used. It is virtually impossible to teach tone quality from writings because you have to know what a good tone quality is and a teacher/coach needs to hear you. Much depends on the school of playing that one has learned from but (As one hint) I was taught to push the bottom lip forward and the top lip down. I generally use the recorder as an example of a fixed embouchure in that the windway isn't controllable. The windway merely shapes and focuses the airstream into a direction. The player can only modify the breath pressure and on this instrument you don't need lip muscles much at all. This fact, makes the recodrer not as suitable as a pre-flute instrument. Historically, the recorder was pushed out of the way by our more popular flute at some time around the 1720s or so. On our more expressive flute, not only can we modify the breath pressure but also the "Wndway" or airstream shape. This means the width and height of the airstream as well as the angle of attack against the far edge of the embouchure hole -(the knife edge). Each of these adjustments to the airstream produce different effects. You can experiment with a mirror. Try to change one of these things at a time and see what heppens. The best thing I can say right now is to learn to control them and learn to use them appropriately.
One may want to go to Sir James Galways web page http://thegalwaynetwork.com/ find his MP3 files and listen to him practice/play pieces. This gives you an idea of his concept of tone production. If you can find his study of the Swan by Camille Saint-Saens, listen and try to understand how he is practicing, how he modifies his lips and how he thinks about his tone. These things can be heard if you understand embouchure/blowing. No way does he not use his lips. As a matter of fact, I don't think you can get any sound at all but wind noise if there is no rgidity to the lips.
~Bilbo
N.E. Ohio
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Re: sore throat
19:26 on Monday, May 29, 2006
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Re: sore throat
21:00 on Monday, May 29, 2006
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Re: sore throat
17:44 on Tuesday, May 30, 2006
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