Really Low Notes

    
Really Low Notes    18:30 on Wednesday, June 20, 2007          

tenorsax13
(534 points)
Posted by tenorsax13

My low C doesnt come out by itself, is there something you do with your throat to do it or something? This probably sounds really amateur to all you advanced flute players, but could i get a little explanation? (im better at the higher notes. high E and up, its the low notes that i cant play worth crap.)


Re: Really Low Notes    21:21 on Wednesday, June 20, 2007          

emmanicole
(9 points)
Posted by emmanicole

try making your mouth into a flatter shape, if that makes sense. and don't worry about sounding amateurish. i've been playing for ten years and i still remember what it's like not being able to get the low notes


Re: Really Low Notes    22:35 on Wednesday, June 20, 2007          

YamahaYFL381JFK
(77 points)
Posted by YamahaYFL381JFK

Hi, my music teacher is really a sax player like you, and he now teaches as many flute students as sax students! I have never blown into a sax before, its all in the reed? For flutist, its all about embouchure! Yes indeed, the low C is not an easy note to shape nicely, I can play down to low D no problem. I started playing low C using the 'smiling embouchure' method, it worked well. I have since modified my emboucure for low C, but the 'smiling embouchure' is a good starting point! try!


Re: Really Low Notes    04:29 on Thursday, June 21, 2007          

jose_luis
(2369 points)
Posted by jose_luis

I cannot give much technical explanation, but just my experience.
Low C takes time to learn and much practise, one year at least and to make it sound nicely and strongly, much more time, probably over 3 or years.....

A slow attack is easier to manage; but if I have to play low C in a fast part, chances are I cannot "trigger" it in due time.

The embouchure must be perfect an adapted to what is needed for the lowest notes. This is difficult to get, when I come from 2nd or 3rd octave notes.

All the keys must be perfectly pressed (and for the low C that means ...all), as the slightest leak in any will make that note fail. The pinky, being weaker in my case, is of particular concern, as is the right position it must get to in (usually) very short time.

I find the B foot an additional difficulty compared to the C foot of my older flute. But my new flute gives a better sound quality and volume for lower notes.

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If it remains a problem, have your flute checked for leaks and/or ask your teacher to play low C herself on your flute and get his/her opinion.
Lower quality flutes can be difficult for those low notes as D and C, I have read.


Re: Really Low Notes    06:46 on Thursday, June 21, 2007          

Patrick
(1743 points)
Posted by Patrick

you have to approach low notes, start say on the g above middle c and play down in half steps, long tones, say 4 counts each at 60 on the metronome till you hit c, do this everyday...


Re: Really Low Notes    08:27 on Thursday, June 21, 2007          

tenorsax13
(534 points)
Posted by tenorsax13

yeah the flute i have is not a very good flute....its pretty old and its a student model one. it doesnt have a low B foot, and i havent got it checked for leaks since i got it. im going to buy a new flute and take all the advice ive gotten from this page to accomplish the low C. Thank you everyone!

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BTW, isnt it advanced players who get open holed flutes? Mines just got the silver pad thingys. Should i get an opened holed flute next?


Re: Really Low Notes    10:50 on Thursday, June 21, 2007          

Account Closed
(491 points)
Posted by Account Closed

if you have trouble with low notes, the following low register exercise by samuel baron is a great tool in aiding your low register to be clear and free.

its to be played at 52bpm in 4/4 slurred. then it can be played with any articulation at any speed. the first 4 notes are quarter notes, the last one a whole note.

C Ab Bb G C
C Ab Bb Gb Ab
B G# A# F# G#
B G A F# G
B G A F G
Bb G A F G
A# F# G# E# F#
A# F# G# E F#
A F# G# E F#
A F G E F
A F G Eb F
Ab F G Eb F
G# E F# D# E
G# E F# D E
G E F# D E
G Eb F D Eb
G Eb F Db Eb
F# D# E# C# D#
F# D E C# D
F# D E C D
F D E C D
F C# D# B# C#

there are other sets after this, but if you do not have a b foot, id be very surprised if they would be of any help to you.

also! MAKE SURE YOU CHECK FOR LEAKS!!!!! ive noticed the foot keys always seem to be out of line/bent on student flutes (maybe theyre easier to bend? the student is an ungrateful child and decides to bang up a $800 piece of metal? i dont know...), so make sure that one key is not ridiculously higher than the other, especially if its an older and/or used instrument.


Re: Really Low Notes    15:40 on Thursday, June 21, 2007          

tenorsax13
(534 points)
Posted by tenorsax13

Whats a good flute for an advanced beginner like myself? Im more of a sax person, so i dont know any good flute companies that are good, or who to watch out for. Im looking in a price range of $1000-$1500.


Re: Really Low Notes    18:47 on Thursday, June 21, 2007          

Account Closed
(491 points)
Posted by Account Closed

you can never go wrong with a student yamaha. ive also become quite partial to the dean yang student flutes. both can be found for under $1000


Re: Really Low Notes    19:35 on Thursday, June 21, 2007          

Account Closed
(3248 points)
Posted by Account Closed

I sell used Yamaha student flutes quite often. I don't have any right now because I am taking a break but I can always get more in. My sellers page is on my profile.

Open holes are not just for the advanced. My top pro players play on closed hole flute. The only good about open holes is that you can shade or bend notes when playing jazz pieces.


Re: Really Low Notes    16:58 on Friday, June 22, 2007          

Account Closed
(491 points)
Posted by Account Closed

not the only good... many alternate fingerings call for just the use of the ring on an open hole flute. makes notes clearer and more in tune many times.


   




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