From a flute teacher .....

    
From a flute teacher .....    17:01 on Tuesday, November 13, 2007          

Account Closed
(324 points)
Posted by Account Closed

Re: Thanks......

From: Kim Sopata <kim@kimsopata.com> (Add as Preferred Sender)

Date: Mon, Nov 12, 2007 9:29 am
To: jim@capitalquest.us

Hi Jim

Yes, I would get an OPEN HOLE flute, unless you have any hand problems
that would make it difficult for you to cover the holes (tight tendons,
etc).......there are many reasons for the choice of an open hole flute.

As far as the low B, it does affect the pitch somewhat, but there is so
much music that includes that note now, that it's better to have it if
you need it, so I would ALSO GET the Low B foot-joint.

See you soon!
Kim


Re: From a flute teacher .....    18:04 on Tuesday, November 13, 2007          

Account Closed
(3248 points)
Posted by Account Closed

So what? What is your point? Why share your private emails with the group. We don't really care.


Re: From a flute teacher .....    18:24 on Tuesday, November 13, 2007          

Account Closed
(324 points)
Posted by Account Closed

Boy, are you ever hard to deal with. I was TRYING to be nice, but I see that "nasty" works better with you.

Is THERE ANYTHING I can say, that you don't give a nasty remark about?

Or, should I just keep my mouth shut and WATCH YOUR postings.

Also, you NEVER responded to my KIND request about head-joints and whether or not you sell them? Obviously, there is ONLY a controversial intent to your agenda (whatever THAT is).

Jim.

Do you know HOW to be respectful? That's all I've ever been to you.


Re: From a flute teacher .....    21:18 on Tuesday, November 13, 2007          

Account Closed
(3248 points)
Posted by Account Closed

I did not respond because I already told you not to contact me privately and I said I would not answer if you did! Now leave me alone! Go stalk someone else!


Re: From a flute teacher .....    00:09 on Wednesday, November 14, 2007          

atoriphile
(254 points)
Posted by atoriphile

JimMillen -

Couldn't you have put all of these related posts in a single thread called "Supporters of Open Hole Flutes"? It would make your point much stronger if readers saw in one thread that Miyazawa and Haynes and Kim Sopata and ... support open hole flutes and would give others a chance to respond with arguments for or against open hole flutes. Also, it would allow those who could care less about that thread to skip over it.

I see you like to add emphasis using ALL CAPS, which can be interpreted as yelling. I would recommend trying italic text instead. (See the guide to the left when writing a post for how to do this.)

Kara -

When replying to JimMillen's posts try not to look like the "bad guy". It will only make matters worse, as evidenced by the last two weeks of banter.


Now, here is my opinion on the open hole flute debate:

Just because a lot of famous flute makers and professional flutists support something doesn't make it best for everyone. Just take a look at how inline flutes became popular!

An open hole flute would only be required to play music with extended techniques, microtones, or multiphonics. I'm guessing the majority of non-professional flutists are not going to play that kind of music, so it really doesn't matter whether they have open or closed holes.

That said, in today's "intermediate" or "professional" used flute market open hole flutes tend to sell better. Also, open holes might help ensure proper finger placement on the keys. Other than that, I say it doesn't really matter.

All of my concert flutes are open hole (but not the piccolo, alto or bass flutes for obvious reasons!). That's because my first flute was open hole (recommended by my band director ), so after all these years playing an open hole flute, switching to a closed hole flute feels funny to me.


P.S. - Yes, I know they make alto/bass flutes with open holes now, but I couldn't afford them even if I was interested.


Re: From a flute teacher .....    00:20 on Wednesday, November 14, 2007          

Account Closed
(3248 points)
Posted by Account Closed

Kara -

When replying to JimMillen's posts try not to look like the "bad guy". It will only make matters worse, as evidenced by the last two weeks of banter.


I appreciate your comment and I do see your point, but I can choose what I would like to say for myself. I know you are just trying to help, but please don't tell me what to do. I am past the point of being polite to him as there is more to the story than you see just on this board. I am not trying to be rude to you at all, so please don't take it as such.

<Added>

Okay, that came off as being rude anyway and that was not my intent. I just re read that. Sorry. I jumped down your throat for nothing. Sorry. I am just feeling a bit testy right now. Please except my apologies. You are completely correct.

I really need to get some sleep...


Re: From a flute teacher .....    04:05 on Wednesday, November 14, 2007          

Drachebuster
(20 points)
Posted by Drachebuster


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This thread or post could be originated by a troll. Before replying, please check:
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Re: From a flute teacher .....    08:29 on Wednesday, November 14, 2007          

atoriphile
(254 points)
Posted by atoriphile

Kara -

My comment to you was just a suggestion. I realize I didn't make that clear in my post. Sorry!

I was just trying to point out that if someone not familiar with your previous (very helpful) posts saw this one, they might think you were the "bad guy".

You seem to be very knowledgeable about flutes and have a good sense of humor. I would like to see more of those types of posts from you. Again, just a suggestion!


Re: From a flute teacher .....    17:12 on Wednesday, November 14, 2007          

Plekto
(423 points)
Posted by Plekto

http://redwing.hutman.net/%7Emreed/index.htm

Loads of types. Which one is he?


Re: From a flute teacher .....    17:44 on Wednesday, November 14, 2007          

dio
(68 points)
Posted by dio

A lot of types, & fun reading. I didn't read them all, but found one that came close.

<Added>

Make that two.


Re: From a flute teacher .....    18:49 on Wednesday, November 14, 2007          

tim
(252 points)
Posted by tim

Hahahaha, great site. I think these two fit the bill:

Tireless Rebutter-
For Tireless Rebutter there is no such thing as a trivial dispute. He regards all challenges as barbarians at the gates. His unflagging tenacity in making his points numbs and eventually wears down the opposition. Confident that his arguments are sound, Tireless Rebutter can't understand why he is universally loathed.

Ferrous Cranus
Ferrous Cranus is utterly impervious to reason, persuasion and new ideas, and when engaged in battle he will not yield an inch in his position regardless of its hopelessness. Though his thrusts are decisively repulsed, his arguments crushed in every detail and his defenses demolished beyond repair he will remount the same attack again and again with only the slightest variation in tactics. Sometimes out of pure frustration Philosopher will try to explain to him the failed logistics of his situation, or Therapist will attempt to penetrate the psychological origins of his obduracy, but, ever unfathomable, Ferrous Cranus cannot be moved.




   




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