Hi,
One of my former students is looking into transfering music schools. She is basing schools on several things, mainly a better Jewish community then she has found at her school. That being said, I don't know the flute teachers at the schools she is looking into (shame shame...I know). So, any help, info, comments, personal experiences, even comments on the music school in general...would be GREAT!!!!!!!!!

Here is the list:

Univ of Wisconsin-Madison - Stephanie Jutt
Univ of Washington - Donna Shin
Indiana Univ - Kathryn Lukas and Thomas Robertello
Univ of Maryland - Kathleen Trahan and William Montgomery
Cuny Brooklyn College - Bernard Goldberg
Michigan State - Richard Sherman
Univ of Illinois - Jonathan Keeble
Hebrew Univ and Tel-Aviv Univ - Yossi Arnheim

Thank you...thank you...thank you...in advance!!!

Sara

michigan state - richard sherman

i live over in the area. i almost studied with him (lack of large scholarships). however, i occasionally take lessons with him. he's a magnificent teacher and has many good things to say. i mean, there is a reason the flute studio at msu has been growing leaps and bounds each year...

She might consider a private college. Mount Holyoke has a vibrant Jewish community, including a dining hall that serves only Kosher/Hallal. And the flute professor there is none other than Adrianne Greenbaum, noted Klezmer flutist. Mt Holyoke is a fairly prestigious school, quite academically challenging, and many of it's graduates go on to the big-name grad schools. It's a bit expensive, but the generous financial aid makes it quite affordable.

http://www.mtholyoke.edu/acad/music/people/greenbaum.shtml

I can not disagree with neenafire's suggestion.

However I can tell you that IU has a wonderful school of music --- James Pellerite was the former "guru" at this school.

As far as being "Kosher" --- I can't tell you. But many schools of music have Jewish teachers. (Sorry that Julius Baker, Harold Moskovitz and Murray Panitz are no longer around). As well as Phil Kaplan, et al.

If that is your agenda, then look for that school which has Jewish teachers in place. You'll have to do your homework.

You can easily contact the various music schools and find out just "whom" is Kosher --- and is not.

I happen to be Jewish --- so I understand your post.

Regards from a "mishling". Jim

Sorry about the misspelling: It's ninafire.

She might consider a private college. Mount Holyoke has a vibrant Jewish community...

Yeah, I know that her family cannot afford that. She is on a full ride right now, and will need some hefty aid. She is a really bright kid though.

As far as Jewish teachers...that is not necessary. She just is really into her religion, and the school she is currently at (University of Kentucky), does not have a big population...and she is really bummed about that. Thanks for the input so far though...I really want to help her find somewhere she is happy...transferring can loose TONS of credits if you do it too much!

Thanks!

I studied with Bernard Goldberg privately, he is a great teacher, she can't go wrong if she tries some of the NYC schools...

Univ of Wisconsin-Madison - Stephanie Jutt

My master's (in Music Theory) is from this school. Stephanie Jutt is an excellent flutist, and the school has a strong reputation.

Got more to add:

jill cogglia and deborah coble from syracuse
jenny robinson from miami
doriot dwyer at boston univ
pamela endsley at denver univ
and the teacher at univ of hartford

Sorry for the lack of capitals...I just cut and paste what she sent me! Thanks for all the info!

I agree with Patrick. NYC has some great music schools, with a "vibrant" Jewish community.

I did study with Harold Moskowitz (the Met).

That meant nothing, becuase my other teachers were not Jewish. And they taught me, just as well.

IMO, however, (she) is depriving herself of the fact that there are many fine schools of music, which do not necessarily cater to those of the Jewish faith --- and, have, on their faculty, many fine teachers who are not Jewish.

I believe Doriot Dwyer was mentioned, at the New England Conservatory. She, for example is not Jewish.

I feel that (the person who is the subject of this thread) has to pick between finding a good music school and teacher, and/or clinging to her Jewish heritage. Which comes first?

Which does she want to be?: a fine flutist having gone to a school that does not have a strong Jewish heritage/teachers --- but offers an outstanding education and faculty --- or cling to religious faith?

Many of the greatest flutists (ever) are not Jewish.

Many of the great Music schools, whilst they might have a Jewish fraternity/sorority in place, do not cater, specifically to Jews.

The flute, in short, knows no religion.

It boils down to: cling to (her) Jewish heritage, or pick that school and (which has) that faculty which will best provide (her) with the flute teaching(s) she requires.

Two of my former teachers were Jewish --- two were not. I could not place any teacher above the other.

While it's nice that you can have "your cake and eat it, too" --- in reality, that may be IMO an unrealistic expectation for (her).

But, again, I agree with Patrick. NYC has many fine schools of music wherein there is a large Jewish attendance.

Regards, Jim

Again, she just wants a good teacher. She also wants an area with a larger Jewish community. Currently, she is at University of Kentucky and not pleased with her teacher AND not please with the Jewish community there...she was mislead because they wanted her at that school and is very disappointed. All of the schools she sent to me to find out more about are in areas with a larger Jewish population then she has now...all she is wanting to know is:
-which teachers are amazing
and
-which are really top notch music schools.

Maybe I should have never mentioned the Jewish thing...that seems to have many people confused. She did the research on the Jewish part...now I just have to try to help her with the Music part.

Make sense??? Thanks for all the input!!!

Of the music schools you've listed, the really top-notch ones, I think, are the University of Illinois at Champaign-Urbana, Indiana University in Bloomington, and UW-Madison.

As I said before,I agree with Patrick, as that would seem to address both issues.

I also agree with Scotch's list of schools.

I know some very fine flutist who graduated from (2) of the schools he mentioned.

Best: Jim

Dear piccolo1991:

I also believe that Doriot Dwyer was on the "list".

I believe that she has retired from teaching(s) at the New England Conservatory.

It's a shame, because she is one of the great flutists of all time.

You might want to check with the NE Conservatory to she if she's still on the faculty.

IF she is, then that addresses your (student's) needs, because Boston (and the NE Consveratory) has a large Jewish population in attendance --- I can think of no better instructor than Mrs Dwyer would be.

Just a thought --- but check it out.

I grew up in Boston and tried (many times) to get Mrs Dwyer as a teacher, but nothing doing. She didn't teach privately. But as far as faculty goes (at NE Conservatory) that would have been a different story. And may still be.

But in recent phone conversation with her, she said "she's retired -- as in: retired.

The point is that the NE Conservatory appears to address (all) of your student's needs, regarding a Jewish community --- and a great School of Music.

Regards, Jim

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ADDED:

Sorry, piccolo1991, I forgot you mentioned Boston University, which does have a very fine school of music --- and when last checked, yes Doriot Dwyer is on the faculty.

The (writer) of this post really should have said whether or not there are geographic limits --- that would have helped narrow down schools.