Re: Tarnish vs. Pitting vs. Base Metals vs. Age vs. Corrosion....
19:13 on Friday, April 11, 2008
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sandyinstanton (3 points)
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Hi Suzie. I have four or five sterling (Armstrong 90) with pitting. I was in shock. I don't know there history so I don't know why they pitted; however, I do have an Armstrong Heritage (closed hole c-foot) that has two spots of pitting. I took excellent care of this flute its entire life. For the past three years I've had the "silversaver" strips in its case.
I spoke to a silversmith who said there are many reasons for pitting. Here are a few: acid rain (from using the flute in marching band), acid on peoples hands (never though of myself as be caustic but I guess there's always a first time ), then there's the air/enviroment (smog etc). I live in LA California, smog city USA. I remember not being able to see across the street because the smog was so bad when I was a kid. Maybe that's why my flute is beginning to pit.
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Re: Tarnish vs. Pitting vs. Base Metals vs. Age vs. Corrosion....
22:16 on Friday, April 11, 2008
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Re: Tarnish vs. Pitting vs. Base Metals vs. Age vs. Corrosion....
00:28 on Sunday, April 13, 2008
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StephenK (395 points)
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Silver is prone to pitting overtime due to salt from sweat if not cleaned off or even chemicals used to clean it.
The only way to prevent salt corrosion to a flute is to gold plate it
On silver and salt shakers:
http://www.tabletalk.org/salt.htm
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Re: Tarnish vs. Pitting vs. Base Metals vs. Age vs. Corrosion....
12:12 on Sunday, April 13, 2008
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Re: Tarnish vs. Pitting vs. Base Metals vs. Age vs. Corrosion....
15:29 on Sunday, April 13, 2008
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Re: Tarnish vs. Pitting vs. Base Metals vs. Age vs. Corrosion....
17:25 on Sunday, April 13, 2008
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Re: Tarnish vs. Pitting vs. Base Metals vs. Age vs. Corrosion....
08:19 on Monday, April 14, 2008
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Re: Tarnish vs. Pitting vs. Base Metals vs. Age vs. Corrosion....
17:01 on Monday, April 14, 2008
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Re: Tarnish vs. Pitting vs. Base Metals vs. Age vs. Corrosion....
21:23 on Wednesday, April 16, 2008
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jose_luis (2369 points)
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Galvanic corrosion could be the culprit, as said. Normally, there is the need of two differente metals, in direct contact or in electrical contact through a suitable electrolyte (for example, it could be a slightly wet inner case lining or the cleaning cloth, left wet after cleaning and stored inside the flute cas (as happens with my M3 Gemeinhardt but not with Yamaha).
But still, the second metal is needed and it could be the cleaning rod or other case metal part.
But just the presence of 2 metals is not enough, however.
To have metal ions migrate from the flute into the other metal, (thus causing the pitting on the flute), the silver should act as an anode and the other metal as cathode. This depends on the position of each metal in the Galvanic series (a list of metals according to their electrochemical activity).
Silver is a noble metal and is placed very high on the list, only lower than Graphite, Palladium, Platinum and gold (if the electrolyte is salt water, not necessarily the case in a flute...).
So it is unprobable that silver can act as the anode to suffer pitting from galvanic corrosion in the normal environment of a flute case.
But there is another phenomena, called concentration cell, where a metal can suffer galvanic corrosion against itself, provided the electrolyte varies in concentration. This could well be the cause of pitting on a silver flute.
See this article: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Concentration_cell
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Re: Tarnish vs. Pitting vs. Base Metals vs. Age vs. Corrosion....
21:34 on Wednesday, April 16, 2008
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Re: Tarnish vs. Pitting vs. Base Metals vs. Age vs. Corrosion....
19:41 on Thursday, April 17, 2008
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