How do I deal with jerks in my flute section?
How do I deal with jerks in my flute section?
17:10 on Saturday, February 21, 2009
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Re: How do I deal with jerks in my flute section?
19:22 on Saturday, February 21, 2009
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Re: How do I deal with jerks in my flute section?
19:37 on Saturday, February 21, 2009
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Re: How do I deal with jerks in my flute section?
19:38 on Saturday, February 21, 2009
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19:51 on Saturday, February 21, 2009
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03:30 on Sunday, February 22, 2009
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Re: How do I deal with jerks in my flute section?
08:46 on Sunday, February 22, 2009
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08:48 on Sunday, February 22, 2009
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09:01 on Sunday, February 22, 2009
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Re: How do I deal with jerks in my flute section?
09:59 on Sunday, February 22, 2009
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oboegirl (352 points)
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It seems to me that they are very jealous of you. I think you should keep ignoring them to the best of your abilities, but if things get too bad (and if they steal your piccolo again) you should report it to your band director or principal right away! Also, I think that they are trying to get a reaction to all of their comments and things, so try not to give them a reaction (don't yell at them or get really mad if you talk to them). If you talk to them, just use a calm, assertive voice and tell them that you don't like what their doing, and they need to stop right away. Just try to be as nice as you can if you have to talk to them. Also, they might feel bad because they never get to play any of the solos. If you have been playing all of them, you could ask your band director if maybe someone else can have a turn at playing the solos. It also seems to me that they don't take music very seriously. Some of the flute players (and other people) in my band are like this, and never want to work on anything. If the other flute players were as serious about music as you are, they would be taking private lessons and practicing. You seem to be the only one who deserves to be in first chair, so don't let their comments about being a "cheater" bother you.
Abigail
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Re: How do I deal with jerks in my flute section?
10:43 on Sunday, February 22, 2009
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JOhnlovemusic (1279 points)
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I think you have a few things going there, some of which you will not be able to control at all. All the suggestions above are good. Understand that in uncontrolled groups (like your middle school band) the group will find and pick out some to harrass. Someone to be beat, insulted, and belittled. If you wanted to learn more you could research medievel culture and such - but it is an animalistic trait amoung most group oreinted animals. They apparently have chosen you (yes, because of envy,anger at their parents, distrubing the balance of the group by being so much better,etc.)
My advice:
As stated above ignore them as much as possible. Don't give them ultimatums! Don't say something like, "if you don't stop I'm going to tell the pricipal". Don't give any "or elses". Pleasantly inform them that you would prefer they not take your instrument. SImple as that, "please I would prefer that you not take my instrument."
If you have a pychologist or on campus you might want to schedule a visit or two. Not because your crazy but because these people work in the adolescent environment and they have a better understanding of how the brains are working. They might be able to listen to what is going on and come up with a plan that could help ease the tensions. And regardless of what is right or wrong, they might find something you are doing that is encouraging the bahavior ( again, not that you are doing anything wrong - but the psych could tell you what it is about you that atracts them to harrass you.) Then you could modify your behavior when they are around.
Turning them in will not make things easier, but may be necessary if things get bad. If you have to do it, then do it. Don't make excuses, don't warn them, don't be apologetic. Hold your head high and understand there are consequences to every action. Your actions and their actions.
<Added>
I like janetc's post below.
Excellent idea, excellent concept.
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Re: How do I deal with jerks in my flute section?
11:56 on Sunday, February 22, 2009
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janetc (4 points)
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Here's some advice from a mom. Try visiting the site:
www.bullies2buddies.com
Click on Free Manual then Kids Manual.
Some people say that this manual tells kids to "just ignore them," but it's actually more subtle than that. It's based on anger management, so it's more like "learn to control your own anger." Pretending it doesn't bother you while still feeling upset inside isn't as useful as truly controlling your anger.
Whether the harassment stops completely or not, this is what you need to do -- clear the anger out of your own mind so that it doesn't affect your performance. And, it turns out that what makes teasing fun is seeing the victim get upset and mess up, so controlling your anger really does cause the harassment to end or at least ease up.
It's a simple idea, but it's hard in practice. My girls are very emotional and have a tough time with it, but when they focus on it, they can do it and it does help.
"Bilbo" is right on with "do the right things so that you can be proud of your actions when it's all over." That is always much better advice than trying to get revenge in an underhanded way.
Sorry that you have to deal with this, and good luck,
--Janet
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Re: How do I deal with jerks in my flute section?
17:30 on Sunday, February 22, 2009
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sabrina74366 (51 points)
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Hey, I totally get where you're coming from!!! I took the same stuff in high school because I showed initiative. I didn't get to join band until I was in 8th grade because the school I went to until 7th grade didn't have band. My band director kind of recruited me to play mallets in the persussion section because I knew how to play piano, but I really wanted to play flute, so he let me borrow one that next summer and I kind of taught myself. That next year (my freshman year) I chair tested for marching band on flute and made third chair. No one was happy, especially a few of the juniors that had been playing since 5th grade. I ended up being recruited to play bassoon in concert band, so I never sat as a flute except in marching band and ensembles. But when we were doing that, they were vicious, especially my junior and senior year, when my director would put me as first chair when I did play flute.
But anyway, I know it's hard to deal with now, but high school doesn't last forever, and these people will go on their merry little way when you all graduate. No matter how much or who you complain to will ever make things better. For some reason flutists are really competative. (I'm sure you, as I used to, are always facing a chair challenger because someone is being a twit.) Now that I'm in college, it seems easier, it seems like people have matured somewhat and appreciate one anothers talents.
As for the stealling of the picc business, here's what I used to do. I had a stand that kept my flute and my picc standing straight up. That way, it was always right there just by my feet and in sight, and also just under my director's gaze. (Our flute section was placed to where I was right on the front row.) Those stands are like $30.00, so that might work for you. If it doesn't, then call attention to the missing picc immediatly!!! Remember you can turn the other cheek against immature jerks, but your poor defenseless picc can't. And some people just don't respect instuments.
Lastly, Please don't let this situation taint your love for music. It sounds like you have a lot of potential. I have a friend who plays trumpet here at my college and he almost didn't join band here because he was afraid that it was going to be the same way as it was for him in high school. Keep doing EVERYTHING you can to develop your gift. That flute can be a doorway to whereever you want to go in life. Don't let others stand in the way.
Good Luck!!!
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