Circular Breathing
Circular Breathing
17:38 on Thursday, December 31, 2009
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Re: Circular Breathing
22:02 on Thursday, December 31, 2009
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Re: Circular Breathing
11:35 on Friday, January 1, 2010
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Pyrioni (437 points)
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On (Flute Education Master) Mr. Trevor Wye's last flute exercise book no.6 for advanced flute student, I have finished all his 6 books by this month, and all his book no.6 (I have even finished his 4th octave C, C#, D, D#, E, F, and F# exercise on a harder C-foot-flute instead of an easier B-foot-flute) except the LAST PAGE ~ Circular Breathing!!
It's hard on flute, yes, not many people can do it properly and correctly, BUT not impossible!
You just need lots of correct practice. Go buy Trevor Wye's exercise book 6 and learn circular breathing written on the last page.
But Please do not practise on flute immediately. I have found an easy way to practise - first try to practise on Didgeridoo, it is much easier to practise circular breathing on a Didgeridoo, close to million of Didgeridoo players worldwide were able to learn circular breathing immediately, it is a required technique on Didferidoo!
But I have found that it is even easier to practise Didgeridoo circular breathing on your flute:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x2I8zOqysUM
Then, once you have mastered Didgeridoo's way of circular breathing, you can now try on flute.
I haven't mastered it yet, give me 3 to 6 months.....bye.....
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Re: Circular Breathing
11:53 on Friday, January 1, 2010
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Re: Circular Breathing
14:00 on Friday, January 1, 2010
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Re: Circular Breathing
17:36 on Friday, January 1, 2010
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Re: Circular Breathing
20:05 on Friday, January 1, 2010
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Re: Circular Breathing
23:43 on Friday, January 1, 2010
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Pyrioni (437 points)
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emy47, don't practice immediately on flute, you will immediately fail and get frustrated and then give up for sure.
it's like you need to go to kindergarten, primary school, secondary school/high school, before go on to college/university.
first use a McDonnal's free straw and a glass of water, blow air into water with cheek squeezed while breathing with nose - this is the very first exercise Didgeridoo people do it. Once you got used to this habit,
then you practice it on Didgeridoo(easier, Chinese players usually practice on oboe or Chinese bamboo flute).
finally, practice on flute. Remember, don't be misleaded by people say 'squeezing puffed cheek', actually French flautists taught us to do it by squeezing the whole oral cavity muscle or squeeze with the root of our tongue, try it, easier this way.
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Re: Circular Breathing
03:34 on Saturday, January 2, 2010
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Daveandkateplus1 3
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Posted by Daveandkateplus13
While I think that circular breathing is very intriguing, I feel as though it is unnatural and makes a piece of music sound artificial in a sense. I never have bothered to try it myself, but the links sure look interesting.
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Re: Circular Breathing
05:24 on Saturday, January 2, 2010
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Pyrioni (437 points)
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Flute is an air required instrument, not just some small-air blowing instrument like oboe, but you need lots of air on flute to feed the tube - to get fuller and richer sound, otherwise, you tone will become very THIN or like sissy tone.
Average Woman has around 25% less lung capacity than average Man, this is a medical fact. (also shorter guys has less air than taller guys). If play fuller and richer sound on flute, they quickly run out of air. To compete against men, to become the next masters or famous soloists, what can they do?
Sandrine Francois is a woman, also very short, with small lungs, but she entered and graduated from the famous Lyon and then Paris Conservatorie of Music and is now an European flute soloist, she taught us to learn Circular Breathing, she said without Circular Breathing she had no chance to compete against men. Her success rely 100% on circular breathing, and if you practice well, no one will notice you were using circular beathing and your tone will still be good.
Many pieces like perpectual motion, flight of bumblebee, Debussy and (according ex-principal Paul of LSO)some other pieces of classical in solo and many in orchestra(like Mendelsohnn's) will be wonderfully played if you have circular breathing ability!!!
Also, according to Trevor Wye, that Modern Music requires circular breathing skills. It is like Modern music also require lots of flutter tonguing, 4th octaves (my teacher even played a F#4 in an orchestra!). That is why Trevor Wye added Circular Breathing in his exercise book 6, and many famous soloist and principal mentioned Circular Breathing in their masterclass nowadays!!
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Re: Circular Breathing
05:45 on Saturday, January 2, 2010
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Daveandkateplus1 3
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Posted by Daveandkateplus13
You don't have to try and sell it. I wasn't disagreeing with you and don't doubt that many top notch pros use it. It just isn't for for me. Nothing wrong with that. I make my own choices and opinions and do not make too much of a fuss or treat the popular pro's words as the gospel truth. As always though, I find it interesting to hear other people's take on things.
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I could definitely see how circular breathing would come in handy on flight of the bumblebee!
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There was nothing wrong or rude in Pyrioni's posts. I would hope that people would let by gones be by gones by now. No need for posting the thumbs down, is there? :)
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Re: Circular Breathing
13:21 on Saturday, January 2, 2010
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Re: Circular Breathing
13:40 on Saturday, January 2, 2010
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Re: Circular Breathing
14:12 on Saturday, January 2, 2010
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Pyrioni (437 points)
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Yes, of course I know those pauses are important, not trying to play through them, but in many phrases of Debussy pieces, according to LSO principal it's better to play in one breath.
Also, in Dvorak's symphony no.8 1st movement, don't you think if you play the first solo part with flute and use circular breathing then you can keep that long long note beautiful and steady by using circular breathing instead of asking that thin sounded piccolo sound to help sustain that long long note?
Also in Tchaikovsky's 1812 and other symphonies many places were spoiled by breathing, that our conductor had to ask sub flute to help me to elminate the breathing pauses, so if I master the circular breathing skill then I can eliminate breathings.
Do you know why many Asians were asking you how to circular-breathe on flute in masterclasses? Because many Asians cultural musical instruments all were using circular breathing for centuries, it is a part of the required skill on Asian instruments, for example the Chinese flute are using CB from time to time, it's easier to d CB on dizi.
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Re: Circular Breathing
18:34 on Saturday, January 2, 2010
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