Re: Beginning
22:14 on Sunday, April 24, 2005
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(oboemy)
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Beginning oboe is the most frustraiting thing EVER but don`t give up. you`ll probably hate oboe the first week you play, but you will fall in love with it eventually. I switched over to oboe from flute because of that SOUND! I expected to pick up the instrument and sound like all the recordings ive heard, and when i didn`t, i got discouraged.Ive been playing for three years, i have a good private teacher and i am in youth orchestras. I still don`t have the sound i want, but i love playing so much, i know ill never give it up.
don`t get discouraged, you WILL get better, and who knows where music will take you. just keep trying.
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Thanks!
21:15 on Monday, April 25, 2005
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(Kosh)
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Thanks for your advice! I have rented an oboe (a few hours ago) and so far I LOVE it. I am not having much trouble with it yet, and I don`t know what you guys are talking about when you say it sounds bad, I find that it sounds better than the clarinet ever sounds! I have a question: After about 20 minutes of playing I lose control of the reed and my pitch becomes unstable, is this normal? Thanks!
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reed
21:16 on Monday, April 25, 2005
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(Kosh)
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I forgot to say that I`m using a Buffet oboe and a medium jones reed
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beginning oboe
23:18 on Tuesday, April 26, 2005
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(oboemaboe)
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Hi Kosh,
I play oboe and clarinet.It is totally normally to feel like your lips are losing control and your pitch goes all funny when you are a beginner. The more you practice, the longer you find you can last each time before it happens. Also, it is worse if the reed you are using is a little too hard for you. When I first started playing oboe, I used a Jones medium soft reed.
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Re: Beginning
12:14 on Saturday, April 30, 2005
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(carly)
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i started playing oboe a couple weeks ago and i luv it! i am also a flute player. my band director relly did not want me to play oboe because he thinks i am such a great flute player. well today i just got to the end of my book! what books do yall use? i use essential elements and i think it is a great book. after i get done learning oboe i wanna play saxaphone but until then i will just keep on playin the flute and oboe. oh yea i thought it was kinda weird how almost every on on here plays oboe and flute well i got to go please reply
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Re: Beginning
21:44 on Tuesday, May 3, 2005
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(Courtney)
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wow that is weird... usually people say that oboes sound like ducks which doesn`t make any since to me because I don`t think the do but whatever. Anyway, I think my beginning oboe cost my parent around $1000 but it was used. But I got a brand new one a couple of summers ago and it cost about $2500. Yeah there really expensive. My reeds cost around $7.50 and thats only for one. Its rediculous (sp?). well I hoped I helped.
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flute and oboe
22:20 on Sunday, May 15, 2005
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(Nessa)
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yea... i also play flute and i really want to pick up oboe as well i didnt know they existed when i started band or else i would have done it instead i assume i read all the posts here and it didnt really make anything clearer for me as to how hard it will be to begin oboe since i play the flute primarily. if someone could help me out thatd be awsome!
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Re: Beginning
20:07 on Tuesday, May 31, 2005
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(Ally)
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I`m just beginning to play the oboe in my band an d I LLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVEEEEEEEEEEEE it!
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Re: Beginning
00:53 on Friday, July 8, 2005
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(Not telling)
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You should pley the oboe man. I do and love it. The oboe will sound like a duck for the first few weeks but not as long as the clarinet and violin. I know this because I have been playing for 10 weeks and I stopped sounded like a duck on my 3rd week. If you want to hire an oboe it is around 70 dollars a month and reeds cost $10-$40
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Re: Beginning
15:18 on Tuesday, July 12, 2005
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(Jossy)
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Hey I just got my oboe today, and I frankly cant get a sound out of it. I played clarinet before and I just don`t know what I`m doing wrong. Does anyone have any tips so that i can get the ball rolling? I would appreciate it! thanks
~Jossy~
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Starting out
15:45 on Tuesday, July 12, 2005
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(Piko)
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Make sure you`re rolling your lips in over your teeth, there should be pics on the web and in student method books.
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Make sure you don`t take too much reed into your mouth. I used to like to set my reed on my lips and roll it in with my lips and that kinda worked out well. Eventually you will get a feel for where the reed goes.
HOWEVER
You may develop a totally unusual embouchure if you don`t meet with a professional Oboist early on. It`s really hard to fix a bad embouchure. In my case I neglected to roll my top lip and learned to play like that for a a year before someone pointed out that it looked funny and that my lip was supposed to be rolled in.
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Re: Beginning
22:53 on Wednesday, July 19, 2006
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Re: Beginning
02:59 on Thursday, July 20, 2006
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StephenK (395 points)
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I don't think flute or oboe embouchure negatively affect each other, they can be quite complementary, but I believe flute and oboe have completely different breath support requirements which can make devoting too much time to any one a pain for the neglected instrument.
For example:
Too much flute, little oboe: High speed air from flute & weak lips from neglect of oboe combine for a nightmarish mouth pressure scenario.
Too much oboe, little flute: Low speed, high volume air from oboe & tight lips if you have a common, incorrect top to bottom, tight/biting oboe embouchure combine to increase difficulty of high range and negativly affect tone. However if using a relaxed, pouty oboe embouchure the low range of the flute should be fine and possibly improved, but the high range still suffers from air flow issues.
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Re: Beginning
02:07 on Thursday, August 10, 2006
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StephenK (395 points)
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The lack of a well developed fast air stream results in a shrill pinced high range too many dedicated community oboists suffer from.
The flute helps to promote a proper air flow that will help an oboist with their high range in playability and in timbre. Like blowing out a candle.
Ray Still on blowing freely:
No matter how accomplished [oboists] are, Still finds that generally he has to reteach them basic breathing techniques. One student simply couldn't handle it. He passed out. His worried teacher sent him to a doctor, who pronounced him fit. But at the youngster's next lesson, he promptly vomited and passed out again. He went on to a less strenuous job - as a Chicago fireman (and part-time oboist).
"Many of my students are what I call reverse-breathers. As they blow, their tummy pops out, and their chest compresses. The more efficient way is to start with the muscles under the ribs and work your way up. Stupidly, a lot of teachers tell them to stick out the gut and lock it.
"Most of my kids hyperventilate at first, " Still says, "especially when I force them to expel their air quickly, like blowing out a candle. Oboe players are so unaccustomed to doing this that the shock makes them lightheaded. You can always tell because they look at you bleary-eyed. But fairly soon, they learn to breathe correctly.
"Then I teach them tricks to con themselves into playing more freely. Oboists must do this. For example. I may tell myself, you're not blowing out, frantically trying to get air through the oboe, you're actually pleasantly drinking in air.' This calms me. I don't feel so bottled-up." |
| <Added>pinced = pinched
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