can anyone tell me about FibreReeds

    
can anyone tell me about FibreReeds    19:58 on Sunday, December 30, 2007          

superfloboe01
(6 points)
Posted by superfloboe01

Hey! i was wondering if anyone had used synthetic reeds (like these: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=110209526833&ssPageName=STRK:MEWA:IT&ih=001) and if they like it more than the real, cane reeds. Also, are they any good for marching if someone could march with their oboe?
Thanx!!!!


Re: can anyone tell me about FibreReeds    21:44 on Sunday, December 30, 2007          

Percoboist
(18 points)
Posted by Percoboist

I've never tried this brand in particular, but I have used synthetic reeds (Emerald plastic) before, and the ones I had sounded really bad, had little dynamic range (no such thing as piano), couldn't play low notes, and the high notes were wild, squeaky, and difficult to control.

If you look at the pictures of the reeds, they have some sort of tape starting at the string and going over halfway up the reed. When you see that much tape on a reed it usually means that the reed needed that much tape to keep air from leaking out the sides. Even my crappy Emerald synthetic didn't have that much tape on it.

The pictures aren't great quality, but the reed seems to be made of plastic. You should ask the seller what the material is, and if it's plain old plastic I'd steer clear for sure.

Also, judging by the fact that the tape goes up so high, it's possible that the reed doesn't use an American scrape (I can't tell from the image). A different scrape isn't necessarily bad, but European scrapes require a different embouchure and it's probably not a good idea to switch back and forth. The scrape type would be another good question to ask the seller.

I mention this because my old Emerald had some sort of European scrape with a U-shaped tip. Of course I'm assuming that you use American scrape reeds. If you use European then it's not an issue unless the reed does have an American scrape .

Now onto the marching issue.

I've heard of a few people who march oboe, but it's very rare.

There are a few reasons why people don't march oboe, and the fact that cane reeds are delicate and stubborn (especially under harsh conditions encountered in marching band: extreme cold, extreme heat, tripping and falling, etc.) is one of them. A plastic reed would certainly fare better under these conditions, even if it's tone, range, and dynamics are inferior to the cane reed. Problem is it doesn't fix the other reasons that people don't march oboe.

Non-reed reason #1 - The oboe is delicate. A wood oboe wouldn't stand a chance against marching band. A synthetic oboe would do a lot better... until the player tripped and fell and threw all the keys out of whack.

Non-reed reason #2 - The oboe is quiet. You can barely hear a whole section of clarinets on the marching field. Can you imagine hearing a single oboe? I guess you could put a bunch of oboes on the field, but I think you can imagine the problems that could cause.

Non-reed reason #3 - The oboe is dangerous. If a player tripped and fell while playing, the reed could stab the roof of their mouth or become lodged in their throat or a number of other painful places.

Synthetic reeds address none of these issues and, being less delicate than cane, could even make #3 worse.

I think that if you wanted to march oboe in a parade a synthetic reed might work though, because parade marching is safer in general than field marching, and probably poses less of a threat to a player and his or her oboe.

However, if you're considering purchasing these reeds to use in a concert band I'd highly suggest using real cane reeds instead. I don't care how good the site says they are. Synthetic oboe reeds and materials just haven't been refined enough to stand a chance against the quality of a good cane oboe reed.

If you want to use them for practice that might be ok. Test them out if you want, but don't pay too much for them.

I'd also click detailed feedback under the seller's name and try to contact some of the people who have purchased his FibreReeds specifically and ask them how they thought the tone and quality of the reeds was. Don't judge the reeds by the feedback they left though, I think feedback is supposed to be based on customer service and accurately describing the product, and as far as I can tell, the page never says that they are better than cane reeds, so it is an accurate description.

Good luck!


Re: can anyone tell me about FibreReeds    17:25 on Tuesday, January 1, 2008          

bp_oboist
(132 points)
Posted by bp_oboist

i had previously asked my oboe teacher about FibreReeds... she said they will make you sound like a goose. Hand made reeds are usually made very well and do often play well too (allowing good and/or bad reed making days). you should really stick to either handmade or i guess store bought=\


Re: can anyone tell me about FibreReeds    01:52 on Thursday, January 3, 2008          

Canadian
(903 points)
Posted by Canadian

No, No, No, No! Don't use Fibre Reeds PLEASE! For the sake of all oboist DON'T USE FIBRE REEDS.


Re: can anyone tell me about FibreReeds    14:44 on Thursday, January 3, 2008          

JOhnlovemusic
(1279 points)
Posted by JOhnlovemusic

You might try one each from several makers and see what you like. I can see there are a lot of negatives here andf for good reason. However, I do know a professional symphony oboist who does use fibrecane reeds when she plays outdoors. They do allow her to project more and are nto affected by the weather conditions so much.

Regarding marching band on the field or off. If you are going to do it do not use your own oboe. Insist the school supply you with an instrument. It is not if it happens it is a matter of when it happens - something will happen, you will trip, someone else will trip, you will be in a scramble function and something or someone is going to hit that oboe. You do not want it to be yours. I would prefer to pick another instrument like a percussion instrument. When I was in school (many many many years ago) all double reeds and horn players were put in the percussion section for marching.

John


Re: can anyone tell me about FibreReeds    01:25 on Saturday, January 5, 2008          

Percoboist
(18 points)
Posted by Percoboist

Yeah, that's how it works at my school. Oboe and bassoon players can choose to learn percussion (They're usually put in the pit), join the colorguard, or learn some other instrument. We usually have our french horn players learn mellophone though.

Although in my case, I became an oboist because I learned percussion, not the other way around, lol.


Re: can anyone tell me about FibreReeds    11:15 on Saturday, January 12, 2008          

Jacoboe
(10 points)
Posted by Jacoboe

As far as I know, FibreReeds are supposed to sound horrible, but will always be there for you if one of your reeds has difficulties.


Re: can anyone tell me about FibreReeds    20:12 on Sunday, January 13, 2008          

bp_oboist
(132 points)
Posted by bp_oboist

quoting canadian, i'd adivse you to never use fibrecane reeds.. when you play outdoors, just adjust your reed by pushing in or pulling out. its easier than scraping


Re: can anyone tell me about FibreReeds    22:18 on Tuesday, April 29, 2008          

minuvera
(18 points)
Posted by minuvera

Eww...no.... it is like playing on a flattened out drinking straw. The sound is extremely buzzy and nothing like the "proper" tone of the oboe. NO... burn/melt them or whatever fire does to that material.


Re: can anyone tell me about FibreReeds    15:43 on Wednesday, April 30, 2008          

ojoe
(27 points)
Posted by ojoe

never use fibre reeds if possible use handmade if you have to store bought


Re: can anyone tell me about FibreReeds    10:33 on Saturday, May 3, 2008          

HoboOboe
(35 points)
Posted by HoboOboe

I once used a FibreReed during a rehearsal and my teacher cut me off and asked if my oboe had ingested helium.


   




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