How to double tongue

    
How to double tongue    22:09 on Friday, May 27, 2005          
(Chris)
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Can anyone tell me how to double toungue. Also, what syllables do I say? Thanks.


Re: How to double tongue    23:49 on Friday, May 27, 2005          
(Jacki)
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Well, some people may say to do ta-ka-ta-ka, but I find it more helpful to do tu-ku-tu-ku. And remember, keep a constant stream of air moving - your tongue should only divide the air stream, not stop it, otherwise the sound can get too heavy and unprecise. Think of a water faucet and something just cutting quickly through the stream of water. That should be what your sound is like.


Re: How to double tongue    08:37 on Saturday, May 28, 2005          
(Chris)
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Thanks for the advice but I can`t say tu ku tu ku without stopping my air. Are there any exercises I can work on?


Re: How to double tongue    09:54 on Saturday, May 28, 2005          
(Omar)
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Say in slowly, tu ku tu ku, making sure the air is blowing through and get slightly faster. Thats what I did and it works fine to me. Seccondly, I found it helpful to go right to the trumpet and work there. You can find the exact place your tounge is going to hit and also ull no if the air is blowing through if the trumpet makes sound or not.

Omar


Re: How to double tongue    02:44 on Sunday, May 29, 2005          
(trumpetrivera)
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Here are a couple things you can try, I like them alot and it help my double/triple tounging since they go together anyways.

Heres some good info though about the tu ku du ku t/d_ t/d_ stuff. Those are for tone and articulation variations. In other words, tu ku and de ke are significanly different for style perposes, some vowels work better then others. The "d" articulation however in my opinion, much favored allround because the T gets behind the teeth alot more then the D. This will slow down your tounge.

For practicing purposes I would use a precise/hard articulation with the "U" vowel. The harshness will help build the muscle and get muscle memory working and the longer vowel to keep air moving/ connect notes. The hardest part about double tounging is building the second articulation i.e. the "ku". Try talking that way it totally sucks! Thats because its not trained, thats why for the harsh tounge, building that part of the tounge to move. A good way when ever youre killing time is say the word "ticket" a bunch of times in a moderate tempo, gradually speeding it up and moving that to the horn. When you say ticket it should be harsh on the accents in the "t" for "ti" and "k" for "kit". For practicing triple tounging i did the samething but I added the word "the(da)" before "ticket". So practice saying "the(da) ticket" over and over again. I recommend "da ticket" instead of "the ticket" because the tounge really jumps forward inbetween the teeth and thats a no no.

An other way to get your face to move is saying "red leather yellow leather" a bunch of times. Say it in syllables to an eighth note and 6 sixteen notes. This means that "red" is the eighth note and "lea ther yel low lea ther" are the 6 sixteen notes. This is alot of fun and you really have to get your face to move!

All of these exercises should be done slowly then progressivly sped up. Make up and exercise to use when you move to the horn. Change up the scales, this is a great way to learn all twelve major! Hope this helps!


Re: How to double tongue    13:01 on Sunday, May 29, 2005          
(Chris)
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The main thing I don`t understand is how do you buzz and say the syllables at the same time. Everytime I try it my air stops and I can`t keep buzzing.


Re: How to double tongue    03:16 on Thursday, June 2, 2005          
(trumpetrivera)
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it seems that you are trying to apply the vocals when you approach the horn. Basically the exercises are to train the muscles for your tounge to move at higher intervals for double/triple tounging. What you should do is start practicing making the clicking sound for the double tounge. The vocals help train where to place the tounge properly for a more efficient double tounge. Cutting the vocals and moving to buzzing on a mouthpiece or just blowing air and making the clicking/tounging motions will help alot to transition to the horn. Dont try to say the syllables, do more memorizing in what if feels like when you do say them. I will research this more later.


Re: How to double tongue    14:35 on Thursday, June 2, 2005          
(Lobke)
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what`s the different between double and triple?


Re: How to double tongue    01:23 on Sunday, June 5, 2005          
(Kendall H.)
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Triple tounge is more for really fast triplets, such as sixteenth note triplets, whereas double tongue is for sixteenth notes in succession that are fast and repetetive.


Re: How to double tongue    17:27 on Tuesday, June 7, 2005          
(Trumpeteer)
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Don`t worry, it took me a while to get the double and triple tongueing in there so keep trying.
I find it easier if you try using the syllibles of T-K-T-K or TI-KUH-TI-KUH

And triple is harder but you can try the syllibles of TUH-DUH-KUH-TUH-DUH-KUH

You can try private lessons to, if you want.


Re: How to double tongue    18:44 on Thursday, June 9, 2005          
(Chris)
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Thanks for the advice trumpeteer.I can`t believe I`ve been taking private lessons for almost 3 years and never thought to ask my private instructor.


Re: How to double tongue    22:26 on Wednesday, January 11, 2006          
(guest)
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I`m still having problems with this, even though i`ve been practicing it for a little over a year now. I can make four sixteenth notes easily, but after that I slow down and it gets more difficult. Also, I cant change pitch or fingerings because I lose control over my tongue


Re: How to double tongue    15:12 on Saturday, January 14, 2006          

Chris
(12 points)
Posted by Chris

Another thing is that tu-ku is for slower double-tonguing. When you start going faster you have to use da-ga, because it is basically physically impossible not to. Also to strengthen your tongue, walk around tonguing the sylables with only air. Just make sure to keep practicing in the trumpet as well. Have fun!


Re: How to double tongue    13:53 on Sunday, January 29, 2006          

superC
(8 points)
Posted by superC

2 words. Arbans Book.


   




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