Average Age/Range?

    
Average Age/Range?    23:33 on Saturday, May 12, 2007          

Azshana
(2 points)
Posted by Azshana

Wondering if any experienced trumpet players would be willing to comment on a typical range for a student. I'm in 8th grade and can go up to a 'middle' B above the staff, though probably only a consistently after I'm tired. What's an appropriate range for freshman-senior years?


Re: Average Age/Range?    20:29 on Sunday, May 13, 2007          

rei234
(4 points)
Posted by rei234

that's good im in 7th grade and going for anything higher than the e(higher than the b ur talking about so u know which one i mean) i consistently practice and i have been given a flugelhorn solo from my band director but ur older so i don't know


Re: Average Age/Range?    21:05 on Sunday, May 13, 2007          

jazzytrumpetkid
(35 points)
Posted by jazzytrumpetkid

Range really doesn't matter as long as you can rip in whatever height you're in. I'm in 8th grade and I'm a consistent E & F above the staff. I practice every day and I use a Yamaha 14A4a mouthpiece for jazz where I really need my range because I'm the lead. Chet Baker never goes high but he's still a great jazz player. It's whatever suits you man. Also, if you're looking for a mouthpiece that helps you go high, make sure it's in tune. Sometimes a piece will help you pop a Double C (exaggerating) but it'll be a mile sharp or flat. My Yamaha is in tune and it really helps.
Happy Trumpeting!


Re: Average Age/Range?    14:59 on Monday, May 14, 2007          

jackie09
(105 points)
Posted by jackie09

I'm 16 and have been playing for 5 years, and I have a consistent D above the staff.
You said you were in 8th grade, but you didn't say how long you had been playing, a B is fine and your range will come in time.
Range sure is not everthing, please don't neglect the lower register, and work on sound and technique(the important things).
Nobody is going to want to listen to you play if you can squel real high but have a crapppy sound, I am not saying you have a bad sound, how would I know? I am just saying don't worry about range.
I would not suggest using a different mouthpiece to play higher, because a change of a mouthpiece will not magically make you play higher.
I really don't think young players should be using more than one mouthpiece. I use a Bach 5c for marching band, concert band...everthing, and I am just fine. You are a young player yet, you definetly don't need a specialty mouthpiece.


Re: Average Age/Range?    02:31 on Tuesday, May 15, 2007          

trumpet_luver68
(28 points)
Posted by trumpet_luver68

i'm in yr 9 doin 6th grade, nd can get out a "D" above the register but really i never need to play that high in any of my peices in 6th grade or in my concert and jazz bands
something that my teacher has told me is that if you want a higher register play LOW, i know this sounds stupid but in a building up to my 5th grade exam in the couple of months before it i got from an "A" to a "C" easy
another thing, i feel that register isnt all that important as long as you have a good tone. thats what i'm working on atm


Re: Average Age/Range?    18:04 on Wednesday, May 16, 2007          

Azshana
(2 points)
Posted by Azshana

My apologies, I've been playing for 3 years. Using a 3c bach mouthpiece for everything as well.


Re: Average Age/Range?    14:04 on Saturday, May 19, 2007          

jazzerjim17
(37 points)
Posted by jazzerjim17

man, I'm jealous. Im nearly 20, a sophmore in college, been playing for 7 years and I just now have a solid C above the staff. Range varies from person to person. It took me almost 5 years to get to the G above the staff but the guy I sat next to could play a C above the staff in a few weeks of playing and we were in the 6th grade.


Re: Average Age/Range?    18:22 on Tuesday, May 22, 2007          

clankman
(20 points)
Posted by clankman

I'm in 9th grade and this is my 3rd year of playing. Last time I tried to play my highest note I played a F above the staff. Today though before practice I easily got to E above the staff. My old tutor told me that if you want to play higher you need to be able to play lower. I've been practicing getting lower and I can get to Pedal B which is the second B below the staff.


Re: Average Age/Range?    21:24 on Wednesday, May 30, 2007          

cantevergiveitup
(68 points)

Mind if an old dog puts in a word here?

I'm 51, been playing for 43 years. For the first several years, my range was solid to High A with an occassional visit to High C. What I learned is that playing low (pedal tones) really develops the embochure for the control and wind you need. Then it's just a matter of playing ascending and descending scales, ascending and descending arpeggios. Do this over and over and over and over and...every day, fellas, every day.

Arban's is probably the best possible starting point. You don't have to stay with just what's in each exercise. Add the rest of the scale range to them. You'll be amazed at how solid all of your playing gets.

If you don't love it, you'll never really be any good at it. That may sound hard, but it's the truth. And, you can't ever quit. Getting "back" never, ever happens. I'm wearing that T-shirt as I type.

Over time, I was able to play high and long, double to triple C, with good intonation and solid tone. In the old days, I sat in with some of the greats.

You need to develop your diaphragm, and you need to avoid pinching to get the notes. The real trick is not to think "up" when you climb into the upper register, but to think "out". Blow "through" the note - punch it through the back wall, not the top of your head.


Re: Average Age/Range?    22:54 on Saturday, August 4, 2007          

bbrandon
(46 points)
Posted by bbrandon

yeah, so what exactly is a "pedal tone?" sorry to ask, but im not really sure.

Thanks


Re: Average Age/Range?    19:49 on Monday, August 6, 2007          

cantevergiveitup
(68 points)

Pedal tones are ther notes that descend below low C, especially the ones that don't have the same straight tone as when you descend chromatically down to low F#. You have to "lip" them into tune. It takes huge amounts of wind and extremely solid embochure control. Play down there on purpose and you will develop both rather quickly.

Hope that helps.


Re: Average Age/Range?    22:25 on Friday, August 10, 2007          

bbrandon
(46 points)
Posted by bbrandon

Yes, I get what you are saying, the really low notes, right, thanks.


Re: Average Age/Range?    19:07 on Monday, August 20, 2007          

mhsportsfan923
(22 points)
Posted by mhsportsfan923

well im a freshman this year and i can hit a triple C with a bach 3C mouthpiece but thats cuz a practice a lot and have a much bigger range than anybody else but your range is better than normal for your age


Re: Average Age/Range?    01:05 on Thursday, August 23, 2007          

yotech222
(3 points)
Posted by yotech222

im in grade 9 and i can get a super A.

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im in grade 7 and i can get a super A

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the first message was grade 9 australian. its grade 7 american. thats why i changed it.


Re: Average Age/Range?    14:05 on Saturday, August 25, 2007          

Eagleblade
(29 points)
Posted by Eagleblade

I have to agree that range doesn't matter it is how well you use what you've got and the quality of your sound. I hit the c above the staff and i'm second chair in our band and a senior. My friend hits a double c which is the second c above the staff and he is the first chair him being a senior as well.


   








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