Mouthpiece questions.

    
Mouthpiece questions.    08:42 on Saturday, May 1, 2010          

Romanflutico
(10 points)
Posted by Romanflutico

Hey guys, I have few questions regarding choosing a mouthpiece. I can play only easy music and you can conclude when you hear me playing, I need more trainings.

1.) Do you know of some negative facts about using a schilke mouthpiece (shallow cup and tighter backbore "a")with a yamaha trumpet.??

2.) This schilke has a standard throat #27 (3.66mm.) I feel its hard to use. I suspect the throat is narrower for me, but I'm not sure. I feel the air cant pass quickly inside. And also the backbore eventhough designed for higher notes, I cant make it sound good the few last notes ofthe second register.

Here is the important ones.
3.) Have you experienced using a schilke mpc. like this with the same throat? Did you feel that changing only the backbore, to a standard "c" backbore, makes the mpc. easy to blow with a little air difference??. I worry that the "c" bbore will make the last few notes of the 2nd register harder to reach

4.) Or do you think that naturally the a and c backbore of schilke models have only a little difference enough to make my 2nd register notes sound normally not thinnerand not hard.

5.) Do you know the effect of using a mpc. with a bbore b?? Some say this straight bore makes the mpc. harder to use.
Please share your experience, thanks..


Re: Mouthpiece questions.    11:31 on Friday, May 7, 2010          

reedy
(66 points)
Posted by reedy

so your a beginner trying to play high with the help of a mouthpiece?.....

bad idea.... a mouthpiece isnt going to let you suddenly play supper high! ok it might add one or two notes on with a shallower mouthpiece!

what you need to do is speak to your teacher about it and stick with whatever MP your using for the time being until you get better, the most common way mouthpieces go are 7c, then depending if you want to go jazz or classical, 1.5C or a 3C then for lead maybe a yam/scilke 14a4a or a 14b4 or something for that but a mouthpiece wont suddenly increase range it only colours the sound and the tone, ie: a big deep MP 1.5c will give a nice dark sound compared to the 14a4 will give a very bright sound. if your still a beginner or intermediate player, keep with what youve got, practice and ask your teacher if you really need to get a new one go to a shop and try them out, a really shallow MP is gonna make you go backwards until you are good enough to use one! trust me i was there at one point!

with the questions about backbores a bigger bore needs more air and has less resistonce, but if you can fill it you will be able to create a much nicer bigger sound wihought the sound getting harsh

and the smaller 'a' is alot tighter, usually givving players the ability to sqeek notes out because of the amount of resistance these are easy to overblow.

hope ive helped

I know professional trumpet players who play on a 7C, just because it works for them, mouthpieces are a very personal thing.


Re: Mouthpiece questions.    18:54 on Monday, May 17, 2010          

trumpetmasterXD
(1 point)
Posted by trumpetmasterXD

okay look since your a beginer start with a 7c as your lips hurt alot and your emboucher request more air then you move to a 5c then when the same happens trhen just keep ggoing down the number 3c ext


Re: Mouthpiece questions.    10:46 on Tuesday, July 13, 2010          

falmar
(6 points)
Posted by falmar

After many years away from playing trumpet I started to play again because my grandson has started to play the Sax. Can anyone suggest why I am not getting a nice clean note. It appears that I get a lot of air or sounds like a lot of air comming thru the instrument as I am playing. I use a 7C mouthpiece.
My trumpet is a "OLDS AMBASSADOR"

I know I have to practice, practice practice


Re: Mouthpiece questions.    11:08 on Tuesday, July 13, 2010          

reedy
(66 points)
Posted by reedy

as everyones chops are different it may be the fact that a 7c is to small?? maybe go for something with a bigger diameter, if your after a new MP go to a shop and try them out! maybe try playing with a slightly bigger appiture, practice long notes especially at PP page one of the aurban!


Re: Mouthpiece questions.    16:42 on Tuesday, July 13, 2010          

falmar
(6 points)
Posted by falmar

Thanks for the reply.
Can you explain the last bit of info??? "slightly bigger appiture, practice long notes especially at PP page one of the aurban"!


Re: Mouthpiece questions.    17:00 on Tuesday, July 13, 2010          

reedy
(66 points)
Posted by reedy

your appiture is basically the gap in your mouth were you let your air through, it could be to small for enough air to enter the trumpet. practice lots and lots of long nots. buy yourself the auban cornet method if you dont already have it, its basicaly the bible to trumpet playing! practice lots and lots of long notes, and at different volumes, from ppp to fff. the other issue is maybe your warm up, make sure your warming up thouraghly before going into whatever your practice routeen is.... and clean out your trumpet! you should clean out your leadpipe atleast once every 2 weeks


Arban Trumpet method    12:51 on Monday, July 26, 2010          

falmar
(6 points)
Posted by falmar

From what I have read, I should go out and get the book. My question: A lot of music guides now come with a play along CD.
Does this book have such a thing? and if not, what would the recommendation be for something similar with a CD


Re: Mouthpiece questions.    13:01 on Monday, July 26, 2010          

reedy
(66 points)
Posted by reedy

yes go out to a music shop and pick up some good books, get a good method book (aurban) a good flexablility book ( collins advanced lip flexabilities) none of these come with a CD but are the best around also while your there get yourself a play along book, maybe a jazz one if your into jazz oh and get a teacher! yes these books are amazing, the best infact but they are never gonna be much use without a teacher


Re: Mouthpiece questions.    09:12 on Friday, August 6, 2010          

JonGorrie
(8 points)
Posted by JonGorrie

The first rule to bear in mind when choosing a mouthpiece is that there are no rules

A mouthpiece that works well for some players may not necessarily others.

We don’t need to try to play on a 1C just because the mouthpiece has a “1″ stamped on it!

And, there really is no such thing as a ‘high-note’ mouthpiece, although certain mouthpieces will *allow* freer/easier vibration in certain registers.

Blind testing is one way to find a new mouthpiece.

To do a blind test for a new mouthpiece, go through the following steps:

1. Lay all of the possible new mouthpiece candidates out on a table in front of you
2. Warm up on the mouthpiece you normally play on
3. Play a scale, arpeggio, or piece of music that is well within your comfortable range on your old mouthpiece
4. With your eyes closed (or get someone else to help you), remove your old mouthpiece and select a new mouthpiece to put in your horn
5. Play the same scale, arpeggio, or piece of music
6. Remove the mouthpiece, and try another, playing the same piece of music, scale, or arpeggio
7. Do this several times, until you get a feeling for the mouthpiece that you prefer
8. Bear in mind not only sound and range, but articulation and endurance
9. When you think you have the mouthpiece that works best for you, note down the size
10. Take a break, and start the blind test all over again

Go through these steps over several days.

What you will probably find is that you will quickly rule out more and more mouthpieces each day, leaving you with only 2 or 3 possible candidates after several days.

If it gets down to 2 different mouthpieces that you just can’t choose between, don’t worry. Both will almost certainly work for you. Make a decision, and stick with it.

Good luck!


   




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