by the way, Im 14 too.

i think i no how to explain it now..
it`s kinda like well iv never had braces b4 but i can imagine i think thats the typa pain im feeling in my lips because after every band practice they bleed from the imprints from my two bottom teeth.. it really sux
i think its mouthpiece pressure and maybe i have a bad embouchure (?) yeah that thing how u put ur mouth wel yeh and hmm..i think my top lip goes over my bottom, pushing the air down wen i try 2 go high is that bad?


oh yeah lol...yesterday i gav my tpt a bath..and omg EWW!!lol it looked like there were lil bits of old newspaper floatin round..lol jus thought id shar it with u

You are pushing way too hard into the chops.

Read Eric`s note b4... it`s good advice. Keep the arm muscles out of it, you will rarely get above high C, and your endurance will suck. Give up on that method...we all used it once, but blowing freely the way "up". Best of Luck...btw I`m an aussie as well.

hey kool so dyou actually liv here in aus?

well i think now i no the problem im tryna solve it but it`s jus reli hard coz mb iv been practicing like that for alongtime and growing out of the habbit`s been a bit difficult but im learnin......at leaast now i definately no its my lips and pressure thaz makin me reli tired wen i play
hmmmm

thanks heaps guys lol don go coz i may b gettin braces soon..n then il DEFINATELY need ur advice..

hey eric
whats preparation h? im scared that mite happen to me...
u no bout the muscle constrictoin n the who sound...whats that mean? i don quite get it


and Peter r u a trumpet teacher? u sound lik a good one lol

Hi,
I`m not in Oz at present, I`m in Shanghai in China, and loving it.

The "Who" sound is a lttle technique to keep you from constricting the opening. Usually, the embouchure forms with an "if to ee" shape,and begin buzzing. That`s the normal starting point for beginners. The "who" allows you to open the lips with a slight pucker, and blow straight down the mouthpiece. I still find if I deflect to the bottom, as if trying to blow to my feet, but with the "who" shape in the embouchure going high is a lot easier.

BTW, I`m not a teacher, just an "older" player, who loves the trumpet.

sounds kool

but is the who sound like when you pronounce the word who? coz if so, don ur lips stick out?
i duno

i think i may b gettin braces soon..or mayb not soon (they r expensiv u no lol)
but i think im kinda excited or am i jus crazy? Everyone says that they ruin ur playin but i think that once i get them, it mit stop my mouthpiece pressure or arm pressure coz if i do use it, it`ll not only bleed probli every tim i play, but itll hurt even more so il prolly end up laying off of it but on the other hand i think itll destroy my already not so up there range lol and wel my endurance already sux

what dyou think?

I have never had braces, so cannot speak with any knowledge.

I would have thought that if you wore braces you can still play, and it would promote the no pressure technique.

Any change to teeth, lips (scars etc) mouth can cause changes to embouchures, but if the technique is correct, it`s just a case of re-building some muscles again (Like gym work - some tone exercise is required).

In any case don`t give up, and even if you have to lay off, keep listening and exercising the brain to train the ear and mind. If you love to play, never give it up.