never get a bigger mouthppiece lol it does not make it easier or make play higher im telling you this heck try playing a euphoniumcant git any higher can you srry i just like debating with people that dont know what they are talkin about if you ha plain Bb trumpt get a plain nice 7c mouthpiece for coronet get a 5b mouth piece ty and good luck

either way its still possible to play high on bigger mouthpieces...sry had to say it.

I`m a reed player, and I took up the trumpet 5 days ago. I can already play an Eb above high C, but I seem to be stuck there. I know I need to speed up my air to play higher, but is tightening the lips really necessary? (by the way its spelled embouchure). and for the record, Double High C= one octave above high C, for those of you musically impaired.

KZigga I admire you, we have some similar ideas and yes!!! someone else who agrees that embouchure is the word mostly misspelled here.(Not amisher!!!) I think what the tightening the lips advice was how small the aperture must be or in other words how close the lips have to be. The best way to monitor this is the whole letter "m" idea. The "m" shape is supposed to be one of the best methods to develop an embouchure, mine comprised from this method and i have consistant f`s and g`s above c at double forte. Adjusting your embouchure in a similar fashion might be a breaking point for range, just give it a go!

i play big mouthpieces to have good tone. that crap about big mouthpiece = bad tone is the exact opposite. the deeper of a cup you have the darker a sound you will have assuming that you can fill it up with air. if you play a lead mouthpiece your sound will not be as big. I play a Bach 1 1/2 c for jazz and a bach 1 B for wind ensemble and my tone and range are both awesome. On the 1 1/2 C i have easily up to a e above double c and yes i do know what i`m referring to so don`t question me. anybody who wants a clip of that can e-mail me at sk8rdude1990@aol.com. so my original point was you don`t need a shallow mouthpiece to play high if you know how to work

Hey Derek awesome job. I would disagree however that lead mouthpieces would not produce a big enough sound. You said it yourself, if have to know how to work. I played a bach 1 1/2 c for everything, from lead in jazz to marching band/drum corps. I had a consistant g above high at double forte. However as I started to learn more about form i was working way to hard to achieve those results. I started to move to smaller mouthpieces like a 3c and I produce the same sound but easier. I then use the yamaha bobby shew lead mpc in jazz. I have never worked as nearly as easy before and I sound great on that mpc. Lead MPC in the correct context can help alot and achieve better results.

yeah that was probably the best mouthpiece argument anybody has ever given me on 8notes. But what i think is that tone is the most important thing and if you have a good tone on a shallow mouthpiece than you should have a frikkin` awesome tone on a deeper mouthpiece. and then once you have the best tone possible than you work your range. that`s what i did anyways and i don`t think i`m going to need anything higher than the range i`ve got on my bach mouthpieces and if i do than sure i will sacrifice a little bit of tone and play on a schilke. but until then i think it best to have to work a little harder to have a high range than to do the easier thing.

Yea i can see how you can make that possible action however switching from big to small is not the same as switching from small to big. I decided to test this by pulling out the old 1 1/2c and amazing how that mpc felt like a toilet bowl! My lips had either shrank and or muscle atrophy had taken place.
I think however since i started moving to smaller mpc`s my body had subconsciously learned a few things to approach the horn. Somehow my body does not know how to work on that mpc anymore. I was almost ready to break teeth by almost shoving that thing just to get the f above c out. And the g was thin... I am not sure entirely what could have happened but somehow big doesnt work as well anymore. Please let me know what you think about this.

I am guessing that once you find that rim size for all around use a lead mpc would be used mostly to add sizzle to the lead range and work less in the upper register. However, someone with a chop set that is trained to work with a mpc that is smaller then another would hurt alot. What i am trying to say is go from small to smaller i guess.... hmm im going to study more on this. Anywho imput please!

that is kind of why i try to prevent using a lead mouthpiece. In a way, you`re are out of shape now. It`s so easy to use that shallow mouthpiece that you haven`t been exercising muscles as much. that will hurt you in the long run when you start playing notes above double c for real.(like in songs) Your embouchure has changed to fit a smaller mouthpiece also. Eventually you will have weak chops unless you work lip slurs for about 20 minutes a day. Also something else you said concerns me and should concern you quite a bit... You shouldn`t push or add pressure on your lips to play high. let your tounge do the work. and that brings me to my next point about the lead mouthpiece... if you push too much then you will most definitely tear up your lips muscles. I hope i helped!

Oh yea that was only when i was checking out the 1 1/2c again. It was really weird, like i didnt have the air for it or something. I did forget to mention that i tried a couple of times each time i slowed myself down and tried less, i got it but no way could i prepare myself for that everyday! I have never had a problem with endurance but i tell ya, that was quite painful. Yea dude u rock! Anywho maybe sometime we can play together!

i call solo

I have been playing trumpet for about 5-6 years. One thing that I have found is that to play the high notes, don`t think of them as being hard. Just think of them as a note. I used to think they were hard but now they`re no problem. Another thing is that you need to have confidence and just have fun when you play the trumpet. If you aren`t having fun then playing is just so hard. Just have confidence in yourself and the note you want to play comes right out.

Hey fellas (and ladies) I have been playing trumpet since grade 4, in grade 8 i had an accident and could not play for almost a year. Once i picked up my trumpet again it took AGES to get close to what i was before. I am now in grade 12 and am the lead player in all the school bands, i am really excellent at playing n everything else, (not braggin) but i REALLY struggle with my range, i get so many different pieces of advice from so many people but am not sure which to follow. I love playing my trumpet but especially in big band i just cant cut it with the range, and it is REALLY stressful.

I use a BACH 3C... so its not like its a bucket. If i change to a Schilke 14A4a will my range increase instantly (even a few notes). Or will it just be a struggle on that aswell. I am the lead Trumpet player of Big band and can barely play a high C.

Please help me

Hey X-Maynard, ive never heard about this pen/pencil technique... i have just started on it today but am unsure of the correct method.

Am i meant to support the pen with just my lips (puckering them)?
Or
Hold it with my hand?

Also.... whats a jet tone mouthpiece?

high notes suck learn to sctually play the dam note right first with good omg good tone!? then play high