Assymetric Mouthpeice
18:33 on Sunday, February 20, 2005
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(Phil)
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Have you guys heard of this beast? My buddy plays one... apparently a guy from NASA invented this, who by the way was a pretty popular trumpet player apparently. Lynch is his last name im sure. But the deal is this mouth peice forces you to play 1/3 upper lip and 2/3 lower lip. Because the mouthpeice is not a full circle, the cup of the mouthpeice is not fully scooped out, leaving a mushroom top look to the cup of the mouthpeice. What are your guys experience with this, apparently this mouthpeice gives you better tone and greater ease in the upper register. So all you MPC heads who have done your research.... whats the deal?
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Re: Assymetric Mouthpeice
10:16 on Monday, February 21, 2005
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(Mike)
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I have only come across this mpc once through drum corps (guys showing off crap). My experience was not comfortable. This mpc takes a new kind of embouchure. Im not sure about the whole better tone deal, considering that there is a new shape on the face so its safe to say that the tone will be "different". Its definately going to be a new approach to the horn and youre chops are in a whole new ballpark. Considering that i had already been playing a "standard" mpc for 7 yrs, i wasnt really going to want to relearn how to approach the horn. So for this "style" of playing I could only think of two types of people that this could work for;
1: Amateur, young, beginning trumpeter
This might work for those who havent picked up alot of "bad habits" and/or want to be different. Master it and impress others, im sure with the range that the manufacturer says can come would get alot of people jealous in high school.
2: someone not satisfied with there sound and doesnt like the standards
Thats pretty much self explainatory, but if the drive to do better is there, why cant you do it on standard equipment? i dunno....
As for me however, i enjoy round cups and the only thing i would change in a mpc is the cup depth and diameter (still learning about backbores). I have been learning lead trumpeting for a while now and it is my second year as a lead in the dci community and i am satisfied with my sound in the upper register and volume.
In my opinion, i would stay from asymetric mpc`s and anyone who guarantees anything with range. I would stay interested with the sound and thats it. Its who or what you want to sound like and thats all that matters. Equipment only shows how big your pocket is, and i would be more interested with a beautiful sound on a bach 300 then a laser monotoned crap sound on some expensive horn like smith watkins or monette.
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Re: Assymetric Mouthpeice
21:03 on Tuesday, February 22, 2005
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(Cmcdougall)
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monotoned crap sound on some expensive horn like smith watkins or monette??
Mike what are you thinking? You obviously have never played either one of these great horns as they are both leaps and bounds over a bach stradivarius and i dont want to think how much better they are than a bach tr 300 its like the difference between a geo metro and a rolls royce, i own a bach stradivarius and i have a monette ordered and as someone who has played both extensively i would say the sound on the monette is a beatiful colored layered sound that is very clear and resonant, the sound on a bach is a good but cutting sound with lots of edge when used with a shallow mouthpiece such as my Monette B6L but when used with a deep mouthpiece it has a rich sound but there is still an annoying buzz to the sound that is gone with the monette horns, you really should broaden your horizons beyond the bach strad ultimate high school horn, and i say this as a junior in high school.
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Re: Assymetric Mouthpeice
18:39 on Wednesday, February 23, 2005
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(Me)
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You say that as a fagbreath, this is a thread about mouthpeices ass!
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Re: Assymetric Mouthpeice
22:59 on Wednesday, February 23, 2005
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(Mike)
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Woah! Calm down! First of all i was trying to compare sound to equipment and that last paragraph started with MY OPINION!!!!!!!
I know my example was a little exaggurated but the purpose was to compare sound. Remember, the instrument is not the trumpet, its the mouthpiece. If you cant make a good sound there it doesnt matter what horn you play you are still going to sound bad understand? I know monette is a good horn but i wasnt talking about the quality or playing ability of the horn, was i? No i said that it would be better to sound good on a cheap horn then an expensive one. What i should have said is that it would be better to stick to the standards and sound good then use weird equipment like the asymetric mpc or exspensive equipment and sound bad. That is all, i appologize if i confused anyone with that post.
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Re: Assymetric Mouthpeice
23:12 on Wednesday, February 23, 2005
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(Mike)
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BTW, I had a P.O.S. horn for the longest time, King 600. I baught a leblanc and its ok but it never shaped a sound i liked. Im borrowing a bach omega, less then a strad, and its so much better. Im not going to "dis" any horn but dude, monette is not the "ultimate" horn.
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Re: Assymetric Mouthpeice
00:01 on Thursday, February 24, 2005
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(tptdude)
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Mike, maybe a monette isnt the ultimate horn for you but it is for me, i have played nearly every major brand of trumpet out there from bach to eclipse to edwards to lawler to monette, monette is by far the best horn with the BEST customer service, i mean gosh right now while im waiting for my horn they have sent me over a thousand dollars worth of mouthpieces to work with just to find the size that is perfect for me, you cant beat that.
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Re: Assymetric Mouthpeice
11:20 on Thursday, February 24, 2005
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(Igor)
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Monette Instruments are the biggest and most expensive garbage that is produced on the earth because they are too heavy for a nice overtone production. Just keep playing your Bach Stradivarius and upperclass Yamaha horns, they provide you with a really nice sound and good intonation!
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Re: Assymetric Mouthpeice
13:01 on Thursday, February 24, 2005
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(Mike)
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Well tptdude i agree with you. However dougall promotes monette alot, plus i was a little insulted by his reaction to my post. But because no one cares about that im just making a point. If monette works for you then good. So far im learning how to make a good sound on a lesser quality horn. Wouldnt u think that by mastering a beautiful sound on a horn that takes alot of work then transfer to a horn that makes it so much easier. Its the same with lead mouthpieces, master it on a larger mouthpieces then get a slightly smaller and or shallow mouthpieces to add the edge to the sound. ITS ALL ABOUT SOUND!!!!
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Re: Assymetric Mouthpeice
16:23 on Thursday, February 24, 2005
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(tptdude)
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""Monette Instruments are the biggest and most expensive garbage that is produced on the earth because they are too heavy for a nice overtone production.""
Nothing is farther from the truth, if you havent checked lately monette now has 5 models, the XLT, the Prana MF horn, the 149 XL, and the 2000lt and the 200 ltj, that are right at the weight of lighter in the case of the XLT and the prana MF horn than a bach stradivarius and you obviously no nothing about acoustics or you would know that a heavier instrument produces more overtones due to the more efficient resonance, their is much less energy lost, many times the heavier monettes are harder to hear for the player but out in front of the bell the sound really blossoms, this is the characteristic of a horn weighing in at 5 to 8 pounds and is built in a manner that weight is not just tacked on but is evely distributed about the horn.
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Re: Assymetric Mouthpeice
16:26 on Thursday, February 24, 2005
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(cmcdougall)
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trumpet dude is right, the super duper heavy monettes are in fact known for their very full range of overtones.
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