Why not get a teacher?

    
Why not get a teacher?    01:41 on Thursday, September 1, 2005          
(Mas)
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Ok well you all dont seem to like the advice to finding a good teacher? Why is that?

Do you not want to spend the money? Do you not think they have the valid knowledge? Are you too good to study with a teacher?

Please give me your reasons, I would love to hear what you have to say about this.


Re: Why not get a teacher?    16:35 on Thursday, September 1, 2005          
(musicman)
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no one is too good to get help, especially with music......no one is too good to find a teacher.....and i tihnk that some people just think, im already good enough...they dont have any work effort at becomeing a better musician...my school band is filled with those type of people and they are the ones who will never be able to play as well as most of us do..just lazy people


Re: Why not get a teacher?    22:48 on Thursday, September 1, 2005          
(Erik)
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The day a musician sits down and says, "I`m good enough" is the day they cease to be a musician.


Re: Why not get a teacher?    22:50 on Thursday, September 1, 2005          
(begginertboner)
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i agree with eric


Re: Why not get a teacher?    23:47 on Thursday, September 1, 2005          
(musicman)
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i feel sad...he doesn`t agree with me^^^^ lol, not really


Re: Why not get a teacher?    03:39 on Friday, September 2, 2005          
(Demok)
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I guess it has to do with what kind of person you are.

I myself like to try ideas, read up on a subject and through that figure it out how it works. By doing so I don`t get the pressure one might feel with a teacher. And it gets me more motivated.

Most people like it when somebody explains how it all works and shows them how to do it.. It goes a lot faster when somebody teaches you, but you might not get the same satisfaction - if that is what you’re looking for.

And because you have tried your theory’s first hand, I think you gain more knowledge in the process. Because you really learn from your mistakes! And you’re forced to THINK! And maybe because of it you think in a slightly different way..

For those kind of people who like the `try it your self` method might have lost interest with a teacher.


I don`t know.. That’s my theory.


But if you don’t have all that time to spend, I say look for a teacher!


Re: Why not get a teacher?    14:42 on Friday, September 2, 2005          
(Erik)
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I used to say things like that as well. Then I got to college, and had to have a teacher as a music major, and I spent years fixing little mistakes and habits I had formed in the years of do-it-myself-ness. You DEFINATELY do not gain more knowledge when you learn by yourself, simply because you do not have that trained ear listening and helping. You don`t hear all the mistakes you are making, and that is habit forming... EVIL. You miss too many things, too many details.

It`s perfectly fine to try new ideas, a good teacher would encourage that. Remember, good teachers don`t make their students feel pressured, they let the student learn on their own, to do their own studying. The teachers job is not to stuff information down their throat, it is to offer an ear the students do not have, and to teach fundamentals and technical stuff, therefore making everything else the student plays easier.

Trust me, I don`t think there are many, if ANY, high-level professionals that never took lessons. Most of them did their entire life, and still do, from friends and colleagues. It`s all about that trained outside ear, it can work miracles.

When you start going out looking for real gigs (not talking about musicals) they don`t ask how long you have been playing, or what school you went to. They ask who your teacher(s) have been. I guess it all depends on just how good you want to be. Music is not like learning math or science, where you can just look everything up and be perfectly informed... It`s a whole different world. It`s much more dynamic and ever-changing. With so many small details that are never the same in two different situations, you need a trained ear and outside mind to help out.

I just wish I knew this when I was still in high school, it may not have taken so many nitpicking years in college…..


Re: Why not get a teacher?    00:29 on Saturday, September 3, 2005          
(musicman)
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can i get all the advice you all have? lol, im only in 8th grade, lol so i can use all the advice you all have for my playing...please


Re: Why not get a teacher?    21:34 on Saturday, September 3, 2005          
(Erik)
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Alright... Be prepared, I`ll be writing a book for this one. I should be done with "All My Advice" sometime in Spring.... Of `07.


Re: Why not get a teacher?    22:58 on Saturday, September 3, 2005          
(musicman)
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lol...i know a few things already, most of which i have learned through my band teachers and my brother (who palys the french horn, who is in the top 3 best in the state of kentucky, and one of the best in teh nation (out of high school) he`s been to National Honors Band in New Oreleans, not now though for obivious reasons...but he has helped me out as long with the other high school/private teachers, so they tell me i have really good tone, i have a really good range, and i can play good, maybe not hit all the notes on fast music, but i`m working on it...i need to know how to double tounge (i tihnk i know how to already, but i just need to make sure) then i dont know how to triple tounge, i`ve heard many versions of it, but i havn`t been able to figure it out, then when i do, im not able to play and do it at the same time, so can you all tell me like a pattern on it please?


Re: Why not get a teacher?    17:56 on Sunday, September 4, 2005          
(Mas)
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There are MANY syllables for double tounguing. EVERYBODY has there way. but this is the way that i like to explain.

when starting out MY favorite syllables are TA and KA. When i first started practicing this i spent a few days walking around with a matronome just saying these two syllables. i think grabbed my arbans and went to the double tongue page and did it until i just couldnt handle it. I made sure though that they were seperated and VERY articulated. I didnt want to start with a soft double tongue that you would use for fast passages but a very articulated double tongue that you might hear in fanfares and such. I think worked this double tongue for a long time(i believe it was a month). then i moved on to the lighter side of it and switched to a duh guh. every situation requires a different sound so i think it is wise to practice both.

long winded im aware. but thats how i got mine up. also i suggest SINGING the arbans double tonguing exercises using the proper syllables THEN play them. remember to use a metronome or your wasting your time.


   




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