do u have to be a certain age?
do u have to be a certain age?
18:38 on Monday, January 16, 2006
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Re: do u have to be a certain age?
18:57 on Monday, January 16, 2006
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Re: do u have to be a certain age?
15:26 on Tuesday, January 17, 2006
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15:58 on Tuesday, January 17, 2006
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Re: do u have to be a certain age?
16:05 on Tuesday, January 17, 2006
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Steve (457 points)
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actually, i would say that size does matter in this case.. not necessarily for reaching seventh position (most music in the first year or so doesn`t use b natural anyway), but the student must first of all have hands big enough to hold the horn properly, and let`s face it.. to an eight year old, the trombone is pretty heavy (another argument against f attachments).
also, twisting the body for sixth and seventh really does not lend itself to proper breathing... there is a manipulation of the collar bone where the shoulder comes forward that is taught that does allow for more reach but this does not require a twist of the torso , nor should it.
so yes, unfortunately, if the child is small for his age, he should probably wait.
as for age in general, it is up to the parent or whoever is going to be responsible for the instrument to decide.. trombone slides are very easily dented, knocked out of alignment, and often severely mistreated by younger players. if you`re gonna go for it, rent the horn, and for goodness sake, get the damage insurance!!!
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Re: do u have to be a certain age?
20:50 on Tuesday, January 17, 2006
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20:53 on Tuesday, January 17, 2006
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03:30 on Thursday, January 19, 2006
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05:02 on Thursday, January 19, 2006
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Re: do u have to be a certain age?
22:37 on Thursday, January 19, 2006
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musicman (206 points)
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i tell you this because i have either seen it before or have experenced it first hand. this is my 2ed year playing the horn, i know some about it, but then other things i learn from mas and erik when they post.But as in the twisting and all that, i`ve seen it done by people that are under 5 feet tall before and they play trombone, i`ve never tried it before just because i`ve never had that problem...im 6"1` with an arm spand of about 4 or more feet. But before i replyed about the twisting thing i tried. and i came up with the conclusion that it did nothing. Plus, when i got my horn, before i did at least, i could and still tell you about everything about it, i would get on here and ask questions and read what experenced people have to say, learned from them. i`ve learned from band directors, more experenced people, etc. I do research on the trombone. And normally they tell about sitting posture, and all that. So, im not trying to prove you wrong, im jsut simply telling you and more important, the persone who may get and play the horn, altertunives they might want to tryout and see if it helps, if not then they don`t have to do it. So im just throwing out ideas, stuff i`ve learned first and second hand, and from what i`ve seen and heard. So im sorry if you think im trying to outsmart you, im certainly not trying but what im saying is that it is possible, you just need to fool around and try it out,
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Re: do u have to be a certain age?
04:32 on Friday, January 20, 2006
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Re: do u have to be a certain age?
23:17 on Friday, January 20, 2006
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Re: do u have to be a certain age?
06:27 on Saturday, January 21, 2006
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Steve (457 points)
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look man, you believe what you believe , that`s cool.
but having seen sooooo many young players with horrible technique, and knowing that many of these bad habits start early, I just get really worried about some of the advice given on public forums.
you haven`t proven anything, only reasserted your opinion. and that`s fine,you are welcome to it.
some things are true whether you believe them or not, and to put it another way, just because you believe something doesnt` make it true.
i assure you , that in another few years, when you really start digging into brass mechanics, breathing study , and embouchure study, you will probably look back on this and think very differently. i am well aware that you feel like you have a good handle on things, being in your second year and all. but let me tell you.. i still come to new revelations about brass playing every day.. many, many years later. things that can only come not only through extensive research, but from having had a horn on your face for many hours a day for many years.
maybe you can at least respect that much?
good luck in your studies..at the end of the day, it`s all about the music, right?
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