Tenor Clef... A Rant
Tenor Clef... A Rant
18:33 on Wednesday, June 13, 2007
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Steve (457 points)
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This is just a bit of a rant, so bear with me.
For a good while now, I have been building up a pretty darn good collection of trombone quartet music. It's not every day I am able to get four bone players together (sad considering how many I work with, but that's another story.)
So today, after many failed efforts, I finally got four of us together to try out some of these charts. I was soooooo looking forward to trying them out.
So... the big disappointment. We had to overlook a good half dozen charts because the guy playing third could not read tenor clef. Not a lick.
Ok..so if you're in your first couple of years playing, it's probably not time to worry about tenor clef just yet. But if you're in high school, or have a few good years under your belt, and you plan on taking your trombone studies further, please devote some time to learning to read it. If you don't, you are leaving doors to a lot of good literature closed. Don't wait for it to show up on your stand.
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Re: Tenor Clef... A Rant
23:25 on Wednesday, June 13, 2007
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Erik (218 points)
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Oh man, Steve, I completely and totally agree with you. Tenor clef is not as hard as it looks, and if you want to get around reading in the real world, let alone al the cool small ensemble stuff, you really need to know it. There is SO MUCH you miss if you can't read it. High school juniors and seniors planning on playing in college (music major or not)should learn it as soon as possible. College freshman, if you're not in the process already of learning it, get on that right now.
Hell, even if you just play for fun, you should know it. It's too valuable not to.
Really, it's not hard. There are plenty of books out there to help out, and it is really worth it. We have to transpose a lot of music in the trombone choir I play in so that everyone can play, but that means when we buy music, we sometimes cannot play it right away.
If you don't know it now, learn it. It's easy, and once you get good at it, it's more fun and easier to read in the higher registers.
Then, once you know tenor clef, go for alto!
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Re: Tenor Clef... A Rant
20:15 on Thursday, June 14, 2007
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Trombone_Dude67 (28 points)
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Posted by Trombone_Dude67
I've only been playing for a few years, and I don't know how to read tenor or alto clef. It is really easy to transpose music in your head. Once you figure out a few "base" notes, you can very easily figure out the rest. I borrowed some Pirates of the Caribbean music for clarinet (it had the melody, and the trombone piece had the melody for four measures) from my band teacher. It took my maybe two hours to be able to play it through completely and competently. Two hours is an estimate.
My point is that once you learn the staff notes, you can play in that clef. Don't get me wrong, you definately need to practice a lot to have it be second nature.
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Re: Tenor Clef... A Rant
21:00 on Thursday, June 14, 2007
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Re: Tenor Clef... A Rant
22:24 on Thursday, June 14, 2007
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musicman (206 points)
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I'm in a brass band and need to learn to read tenor clef. The thing is, I've been told to get books off the internet, but I'm not currently able to-I don't have a way to pay for it. So is there anyway I can get a link from the internet where I can play the note as long as see it. I have smartmusic program, but I can't find a way to put it into tenor clef on the music on the screen area.
I've been told that transposing flute music from Bb is the same as reading tenor clef, but i also don't know treble clef-sad, i know. But then again i'm only a sophomore in high school. My band room is...well...not there...my school is getting a 9 million dollar renovation and the music dept. is last on the list, and its being done right now. So besides not being in school, I can't get anything to help.
I have asked the director of the brass band, but he said he had long since given his book away. I've not asked anyone else yet, but I'd still want to go in and know it some before actually getting a book and starting from scratch. I know where the C is, since thats the easiest part, but above and below the staff I should be looking at the inside of a computer, which I don't know what i'm looking at.
So is there anywhere i can get a link or something on smartmusic that I've overlooked?
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Re: Tenor Clef... A Rant
05:44 on Friday, June 15, 2007
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Re: Tenor Clef... A Rant
15:54 on Friday, June 15, 2007
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Re: Tenor Clef... A Rant
19:31 on Friday, June 15, 2007
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Re: Tenor Clef... A Rant
21:03 on Friday, June 15, 2007
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Trombone_Dude67 (28 points)
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Posted by Trombone_Dude67
Steve, I didn't mean to intend that you should have waited two hours for the third bone to figure his part out. I only meant that you can "know" the notes in a few hours depending on the difficulty of the music. Since the Pirates music only had maybe 10 different pitches, I could play it fluently in two hours. You definately have to be able to read your music fluently in order to be able to play music in that clef. For more advanced music, it would surely take many daily practices to be able to play it well.
I haven't recieved any music that is written in tenor or alto clef. The notes I play in band are all below middle C, and since most people in my band don't practice at all (very sad), my director thinks it's too advanced for us. I printed out a sheet that had tenor clef notes on it from Google (also sad), and I want to be able to read tenor and maybe alto clef fluently before the summer ends. I will probably get a private teacher in the summer, so I might get some with tenor/alto clefs. I hope to be prepared when it does rear its ugly head.
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Re: Tenor Clef... A Rant
21:38 on Friday, June 15, 2007
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Re: Tenor Clef... A Rant
22:22 on Friday, June 15, 2007
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Re: Tenor Clef... A Rant
23:20 on Friday, June 15, 2007
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Steve (457 points)
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Trombone_dude67,
It sounds to me like you are certainly not ready for tenor clef just yet. While the music you read may stay consistently below middle C, the stuff I play tends to stay well above it. I'm not adressing the beginnners here, just those that are serious about playing through high school and beyond. At your level, of course tenor clef isn't gonna show up.
In my job, it does. And believe me, if I told my bandmates I couldn't read a chart that was handed to me because it was in tenor clef, I'd be in sitting in my boss's office for an uncomfortable meeting pretty darn quick.
Look, like I said in the original post... it was a rant... me venting more than anything else. <Added>Just as a side note...
The US Navy Band is holding an audition for a trombonist. Out of the 8 required excerpts, 4 have tenor clef. Check it out for yourself.
http://www.navyband.navy.mil/pdfs/auditions/Trombone%20Audition%20Music%20for%20April%2023,%202007.pdf
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Re: Tenor Clef... A Rant
20:22 on Saturday, June 16, 2007
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Trombone_Dude67 (28 points)
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Posted by Trombone_Dude67
Yeah, I'm probably not ready for it yet, and I most likely won't learn tenor or alto over the summer. But I am serious about playing in high school and college, and maybe after that, but probably not as a pro.
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Re: Tenor Clef... A Rant
00:26 on Friday, June 29, 2007
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