Tips on orchestral playing.

    
Tips on orchestral playing.    14:26 on Saturday, December 15, 2007          

musicman
(206 points)
Posted by musicman

So I have recently received results from my state's all state tryouts. I made 1st chair orchestra, and never playing in an orchestra before, let alone playing with a stringed instrument, what are some tips?


Re: Tips on orchestral playing.    17:23 on Saturday, December 15, 2007          

Steve
(457 points)
Posted by Steve

Start working on your tenor and alto clef reading. Take lessons from a good orchestral player. Do a lot of listening.


Re: Tips on orchestral playing.    16:59 on Tuesday, December 18, 2007          

bobsacamano
(158 points)
Posted by bobsacamano

There's no need to get all scared when you see sharps written on the page. F# is the same as Gb, C# is the same as Db, etc. No big deal, right?


Re: Tips on orchestral playing.    16:52 on Wednesday, December 19, 2007          

musicman
(206 points)
Posted by musicman

Tenor clef for me is just needed to be worked on above and below the staff, other than that its all good...

Sharps and such are all good with me, I know all the major scales, so no biggie there...


Re: Tips on orchestral playing.    20:48 on Wednesday, December 19, 2007          

Steve
(457 points)
Posted by Steve

Keep in mind.. clef reading and handling less comfortable keys are just a matter of reading the music. There is a lot more to it than that. You need to have a clear concept of the orchestral trombone sound. You need to know the material outside your own part. Most of this music is far more difficult than it seems at first glance. You will need to get used to holding yourself to a much higher standard of time, pitch, articulation, consistency, and sound. The help of a good orchestral player would be the best thing.


Re: Tips on orchestral playing.    08:11 on Thursday, December 20, 2007          

puffycheeks
(25 points)
Posted by puffycheeks

Orchestral playing is an entire different animal from band playing. It's hard to explain by typing it out, but the best advice is to seek help from an orchestral player. Also buy an excerpt book or two and try to perfect them. Some orchesrtal stuff will demand the biggest/loudest/fullest/highest playing that you will ever do. Also, it will demand some of the most delicate playing as well. Some of the first trombone stuff you might get asked to play could be ridiculously hard, too. Bolero, for example; you stay up on ff high D's for many measures by yourself. Or Schumann's 3rd- you have to hold a pp high Eb (the octave above the one two ledger lines up) for three beats at quarter note = 54. Find a pdf file of la gazza ladra or william tell- they are everywhere. Once you can play all the notes, articulation is most important. Then dynamics. Wait, just remembered about this!!! Go to www.trombone-excerpts.org There you can find all of the common trombone excerpts in pdf files, and hear many different recordings of major symphonies on excerpt! hope that helps!

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edit: the website is www.tromboneexcerpts.org


Re: Tips on orchestral playing.    17:42 on Thursday, December 20, 2007          

musicman
(206 points)
Posted by musicman

thankfully, I an tutored by the principle/fill in for the Lexington Symphony Orchestra. But I don't have another lesson until after the 1st, so its going to be not that much time to get ready for state.

The orchestra director at school told me that more than likely I won't be challenged. Then again, he plays violin and I highly doubt that he knows the trombone part that well, so I'm not listening to what he says about it as much as I am your alls...especially who has been in orchestras.

I forgot the music were playing, it hasn't been mailed to us yet, but its something on a Mountain, one of Hydens 3 movements to a concerto, and a couple other things...like I said, I just forgot...


Re: Tips on orchestral playing.    18:23 on Thursday, December 20, 2007          

Steve
(457 points)
Posted by Steve

If you've got everything so well covered, why ask for any advice from us?
My only last piece of advice... when you get there, check your ego at the door.


Re: Tips on orchestral playing.    21:30 on Saturday, December 22, 2007          

musicman
(206 points)
Posted by musicman

I was just passing on what he tells me, I don't know how true it is or not...I was just saying.
Also, I was just seeing if there was and how much things do i need to know so I can get a head start on the things before my next lesson after the 1st...


   




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