I need Help with my new violin...

    
I need Help with my new violin...    09:11 on Thursday, November 25, 2010          

Dragozan
(1 point)
Posted by Dragozan

Hey guys. This is my first post here on 8notes, so i suppose I should say hi

Anyway, Im a guitarist mainly (ive been playing for three years, and have experience mainly in Metal and Rock music, as well as classical elements), but I've also decided to take up violin as a second instrument.
I bought this violin from Gear4Music, which has positive reviews, and took it to my school, where a friend and a music teacher have both checked on it.
My problem i have with it, is the the G, D and A strings (Mainly the G string) seem to be far too loose, causing the note to pitchbend, be difficult to play, and be genrally a niusance. The E string seems to be fine, except for the string slippin occasioanlly, but thats natural with new strign instruments, i know. What i have noticed about this string thoguh, is that it hs a fine tuner, whereas the others dont, But i wouldnt have tohugh it'd effect the other stirngs.

Basically, i was wondering if any of you guys know why the strings are too loose, despite being at the correct pitch? Oh, and I have checked, the bridge is the right way too, so thats not the problem.

Thanks to anyone who helps Stay Musical


Re: I need Help with my new violin...    14:14 on Saturday, November 27, 2010          

godling
(52 points)
Posted by godling

Hi
I too played guitar first & after accumulating a few different types of instruments I finally thought I'd play violin as well. I bought a student violin & even though I'd tune the strings to the correct pitch with a digital tuner they still seemed very loose & the G especially was too loose to be playable. I decided it was the strings that were at fault so I bought some good quality ones & that fixed the looseness straight away. So my suggestion is that you get some more strings, perhaps from ebay where they are half the price of the stores sometimes.

I also changed the tailpiece for an ebony tailpiece & that improved the tone immensely, & I noticed that the only fine tuner which was on the E string was destroying the gain on that string by about 50% & when I removed that fine tuner the string sounded perfect.

I also bought another very fine violin from melody with violin & the E string was again being robbed of it's gain by the only fine tuner so I removed that & the string sounded perfect.

So my advice is that you learn how to tune your violin with the pegs only & get rid of fine tuners altogether, & get some new strings.

If you're going to replace the tailpiece be careful not to shake the violin because there's a small piece of dowel inside that is held in place by the pressure of the strings mainly & if that falls loose you'll need to get the tool to fix it or take it to an expert.

I couldn't believe how loose the student strings were? But I think it made them very quiet also & that might be the purpose of them seeing as they are for students who shouldn't be trying to be loud at first. The new strings I bought were professional strings & they were ten times louder straight away.

Violin strings have colored threads on each end & there are charts on the net that you type your string colors into & they tell you which type of string you have. Mine were the super sensitive student strings. Here's one of the charts: http://www.quinnviolins.com/qv_stringidsearch.shtml


Re: I need Help with my new violin...    23:19 on Monday, November 29, 2010          

rgarrison1
(1 point)
Posted by rgarrison1

I'm not sure what you mean by loose, so I'll address a few possible reasons.
Are the pegs holding well? If they slip, I would suggest trying peg dope or peg drops (peg dope is better in most cases).
You mention the bridge is good; I assume you mean it it not too high. Is the nut too high? It shouldn't take a lot of pressure with your fingertip to depress the string to the neck; if you have to push too hard, it could be the string is too far off the neck because of too tall of a nut.
Another possible thought; is the string being dragged sideways when you press, or are you pressing straight down?
Finally, it could be the strings themselves. some of the ebay strings can be pretty bad; you could probably pick up some Prelude, Red Label, La Bella, Pro Arte, or Vision strings and see how they are compared to your current strings.
NOTE: Often strings take some time to settle in; if you are constantly loosening them and re-tightening them, they will never settle. Some settle in within a day; even the worst shoudl be pretty stable by day three, and only require minor adjustment.


Re: I need Help with my new violin...    12:42 on Tuesday, November 30, 2010          

oscar2
(1 point)
Posted by oscar2

hi i think that u should take it to a violin/strings shop and enquire there it may be that you have a faulty bridge but first check the nut (top of finger board) they may have slipped. it is a simple repair so shouldn't cost too much (under £20)


Re: I need Help with my new violin...    17:07 on Thursday, December 16, 2010          

PhilOShite
(152 points)
Posted by PhilOShite

As a rule, the strings supplied with new instruments are dreadful to say the least and should be replaced as soon as practical. Tell me if I am understanding correctly, when you play a note, without making any adjustments you can hear the string change pitch depending on how loudly you play? If I am correct then it is the strings. Another interpretation of what you said is that you tune one string and then when the other strings are in tune, the first string is now out of tune. If that is the case then it may be that the instrument is distorting under the strain of he strings. I have never observed this in Violins but I have on a guitar. In this case it is the instrument. (But make sure the string has settled, as a guitarit, you should probably be familiar with that, Violin strings take a long time to settle from new.


   




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