antique violin

    
antique violin    23:23 on Monday, December 30, 2002          
(Dan)
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I have an old violin with the following label inside, is it worth anything?
Andreas Guarnerius fecit cremone fub titulo Sandae Terefiae 1736


Re: antique violin    18:14 on Saturday, January 4, 2003          
(SomeoneOnline)
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Loser just because it has a name doesn`t mean its worth anything....mine is from 1680..it was passed down.


Re: antique violin    18:14 on Saturday, January 4, 2003          
(SomeoneOnline)
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Oh and mines not worth anything so what makes yours?


Re: antique violin    18:40 on Saturday, January 4, 2003          
(sean)
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SomeoneOnline, SHUT UP! Your violin might not be worth anything (which I doubt) but it doesnt mean that his is not you loser.

Andrea Guarneri (Cremona, Italy, 1626-98), founder of the family, was a fellow apprentice of Stradivari in the workshop of Nicolo Amati. Approximately 250 VIOLINS, 4 violas, and 14 violoncellos by him are thought to exist. They are not as fine as instruments made by his grandson, Joseph Guarnerius del Gesu.

Typical label: Andreas Guarnerius fecit Cremonae Sub titulo Sanctae Teresiae 1670 (i.e., under the patronage of Saint Theresa)

Your Label: Andreas Guarnerius fecit cremone FUB titulo SANDAE TereFiae 1736 (you can obviosly see the differences)

One of is sons could of finished if but otherwise it is probably a copy. Another thing, copys are worth a lot of money.

SomeoneOnline, I am curious to have told you that your violin was worth nothing, oh and how much is nothing, how much is you instrument worth? An instruments value can go up from just being old even if it has no label because the older an intrument gets, the better it sounds. The only way an instrument can be worth nothing is if it has had some extensive damage done to it almost to the point that it cant be played anymore.


Smithsonian Institution

http://www.si.edu/resource/faq/nmah/violins.htm






Re: antique violin    20:24 on Thursday, January 16, 2003          
(sean)
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Well anybody?


Re: antique violin    01:25 on Friday, January 17, 2003          
(sean)
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Ah, so I guess you both no absolutely nothing about violins. What price do you call a fairly expencive violin?


Re: antique violin    01:51 on Friday, January 17, 2003          
(sean)
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His violin can easily be worth that much or more if it`s in good condition. The cheapest violins I ever see are worth about 300 pounds, but those are new ones. Old violins are always worth more than new ones. Look on this site st violins on Ebay auctions. People will sell their violins and will take the price they want for it or else the buyer wont get it.

http://search.ebay.com/search/search.dll?GetResult&SortProperty=MetaHighestPriceSort&query=violin&from=R8&ht=1&combine=y&st=2


Re: antique violin    13:37 on Friday, January 17, 2003          
(sean)
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Currency converter, just if your wondering about the price differential.



http://www.xe.com/ucc/


Re: antique violin    18:50 on Tuesday, January 28, 2003          
(John)
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Hey look, just go to an instrument appraiser. Have them take a look and give you a price on it. Thats the best way to find out if its good or not!

If you don`t know of any Appraiser you might ask one of your local music stores they should know someone.

Take care!


Re: antique violin    16:35 on Sunday, May 11, 2003          
(Rickster)
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Does anyone have a colonial or pre-colonial period violin for sale? If so who and how much? thanks.


Re: antique violin    17:02 on Tuesday, June 24, 2003          
(clandigger)
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Re: On 1/4/2003 you wrote----
"Typical label: Andreas Guarnerius fecit Cremonae Sub titulo Sanctae Teresiae 1670 (i.e., under the patronage of Saint Theresa)
Your Label: Andreas Guarnerius fecit cremone FUB titulo SANDAE TereFiae 1736 (you can obviosly see the differences)"
I`m not a violin expert, but I
just wanted you to know that the letter "f" was used for an "s" (for both upper and lower case) both for print and penmanship until the early 1800`s. It is probably the first thing that anyone researching any old records learns---
I have been researching records for genealogy purposes for almost 40 years, and have probably seen upwards to 35,000 handwritten and printed records.

Depending on the age and condition of any label, and the condition of the old typeset, a "ct" looking like "d", and any lack of letters could be very understandable.



Re: antique violin    02:22 on Wednesday, June 25, 2003          
(Sean)
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O.K. now I`m confused, were some replys erased. Anyways, I notice all the time that people who make copies of an original stringed instrument also use the same words for the label inside, but change a few letters and the actual year it was made on purpose.


Re: antique violin    02:25 on Wednesday, June 25, 2003          
(Sean)
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Oh yah, some letters might be fuzzy and blend togeather, but most I see aren`t. Mos`t I have saw were selling on www.ebay.com


Re: antique violin    00:41 on Friday, September 5, 2003          
(Phil)
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P.S. for SEAN:
on Friday, January 17, 2003 at 01:51 you wrote
"Old violins are always worth more than new ones."

Where did you get this information? Your statement is incorrect. If you were to purchase a recently made violin made by a Cremona master it could cost you well over $20,000 while a not so recent old Stradivari copy are known to have sold on ebay for as little as $100. A violin is worth as much as someone is willing to pay for it. Other factors which determine value are; who made it?, what is the quality of the craftmanship? how does it sound? and how much is someone willing to pay?



Re: antique violin    06:16 on Friday, September 5, 2003          
(Elizabeth Ward)
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Sean has a very strong preference for old violins, which is his right of course. But he is quite wrong about £300. We sell new outfits from £60, and there are some out there cheaper than us.

Lzi


   








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