Pretty new to these antique violins stuff.......anyone care to help me out on a question?

How much does an antique usually go up in price every year?



Edited by Forum Admin at 03:33 on Tuesday, April 08, 2003
Reason: title clarified]

It really depends on who made the violin, quality, sound, how many of them exist. During the Civil war, WW1 and WW2 lots of instruments got destroyed by war, from usually lack of respect of music and instruments. That`s why you rarely see antique Basses for sale, because they are big and easy to spot and destroy. Also other instruments gotten damaged beyond repair a thrown out from the years of mishandling even though today they could of been easily repaired. Stradivarious instruments can usualy cost in the $100,000-4,000,000 range and up from superb sound, quality, rarity and popularness. To see how much your violin is worth look inside it through the F-holes and see who made it and what year it was made. But anyway, there are a lot more old antique violns than violas, cellos and basses.On Ebay, 300 year old violins can sell for $1,000-2,000+, but cellos that are 300 years old can sell for 100,000-1,000,000+ because their aren`t many of then and plus the only people that made them at that time are extremely famous today, For instance: Antonius Stradivarious, Andrea Amati, and Jacobus Stainer. To be warned, people have made copys of them, so don`t think yours costs a lot if it has a famous persons name in it.The way to tell if it is a fake is if they put false information in it, like: StradiUarious (with a U not a V) and Made in 1750 in Germany. I don`t think Antonius Stradivarios made violins in his death. Oh, and the older a violin gets, the more it`s worth, unless it`s damaged.

Many factors determine its price... most notably is it`s sound. One of the reason that antique violins sound so good is because they`ve been `broken in`, which means they`ve been played very much and their wood resonants very well. Newer violins take a while to break in. Another important factor is the wood quality. My new violin, although considered "new" (it was handcrafted in the late 1980`s) is made out of an incredible specific and beautiful stock of wood. I`ll just say this wood was prepared for over 70 years before it got into my violin .
Many people also believe that beauty makes violins worth more... this is the biggest load of BS in the world. Varnish makes your instrument look good, and it can sometimes increase the sound of your instrument, but you can varnish a violin any time (for a fee, of course). I`d rather play on a 200 year old ugly piece of wood than have to perform a Concerto on a brand new, beautiful, never played before instrument.

Also, if you sell acuturements with the instrument (case, rest, mutes, strings, bow, polish, etc) you may get a better deal.

Hoep this helps!!

I am trying to find someone that can give me information on two violins that belonged to my Grandfather.

This is what I know about them:
1. Giovan paolo Maggini
brescia (then some type of symbol with a 16 and something else beside it) that part is hard to make out.
made in Germany

2. The second one is:
copy of
Antonius Stradivarius
faciebat Cremona 1713
made in West Germany
On the bridge the words "Aubert" with a star over
the e in Aubert.

My Grandfather was born in the late 1890`s and the Giovan violin was given to him when he was 6 years old. We have no idea who gave it to him.

I need this information for family only, they are heirlooms to us regardless of any value, we would just like to know more information.

Any help you could give me would be very appreciated.

Thank you,
Sharen Arriazola

There are a couple of assumptions in this thread so far that are simply ill-founded.

1. Copies do not always say they are copies. ALWAYS assume any label of any maker you have ever heard of is either a copy or simply a trade name. We lost a lot of money on ebay before we cottoned on to the trade name problem! The chance of any "grandad`s attic" violin being anything earlier than late nineteenth century are remote indeed. There is a supposed 300 year old violin on ebay at the moment that is almost certainly a 20th century copy (it certainly isn`t anything earlier than late nineteenth century) and this happens all the time. Never ever believe a label without a certificate.

2. Tone has little if any relation to price. The maker`s name, quality of wood, place of origin and cosmetic condition are far more important in determining the value of a violin.

Aubert, by the way, is just a make of bridge.

liz

we have the papers on this one just trying to find out what its worth its a nicolous amatus fecit in cremona 1645 thats what the label says

You`ve got a GENUINE 1645 Amati?? Surely you`ve got insurance on that? You`d need a professional valuation, you`re talking hundreds of thousands there. Surely whoever wrote the certificate has given you an insurance valuation?

Liz

Check out my website...
www.oldfiddles.com

It has some interesting facts and information that can help you with this subject.
Thanks
Royce

I am trying to find someone that can give me information on two violins that belonged to my Grandfather.

This is what I know about them:
1. I have a
copy of
Antonius Stradivarius
faciebat Cremona 1715

I need this information for family only.Any help you could give me would be very appreciated.

Sorry, antony, it`s impossible to tell you anything at all just based on a label like that. COuld be almost anything.

Liz

IT GOES UP $1,000,000 DOLLARS A YEAR! LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 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