Want to learn Viola, already play Violin
16:11 on Sunday, May 1, 2005
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(J. Entwistle)
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Hi,
I have recently taken up the violin again, (i was abouts to do my grade 4 when I quite due to needing a break) and I have been interested in the viola.
I feel that is is more to my personality. The violin is fine and all, but it is too chirpy and jolly for me, and I want something more sollom.
So, what I want to ask is will I be ok with it. I am hoping to begin Viola nearer Christmas time, or sooner when I ask my parents he he he.
If you have any nice Viola solo songs, can you give me the URL to the site so that I can listen to them.
Many thanks.
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Re: Want to learn Viola, already play Violin
16:13 on Sunday, May 1, 2005
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(J. Entwistle)
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P.s. what size viola would I need. I currently play a full size violin, and i am quite tall. Also, if you can reccommend me some beginner prices for a viola. I have been checking out some local music shops and the best I have found is £120.00
If you have any other better shops, which are in the UK, can you please give me a link.
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Re: Want to learn Viola, already play Violin
17:15 on Sunday, May 1, 2005
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(Bill Platt)
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If you already play violin, then you will be disappointed with a beginner viola. Be prepared to spend better than 400 or 500 guineas.
I play the violin and I tried out some real cheapies ($250) and they were pretty dreadful. But they were chinese and in a general music shop--not a strings shop.
I bought an instrument & kit for $850 and it worked out really nicely--having tried a bunch up to $2000. I also made sure to try out bows & got a good one which sounded and worked well on the instrument.
It won`t be fun if the set-up is bad, if it sounds lousy and does not respond well. You get what you pay for. If you have to sell your violin to buy the viola, then that is better than buying a junker in my opinion.
Regards,
Bill
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Re: Want to learn Viola, already play Violin
17:24 on Sunday, May 1, 2005
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(Bill Platt)
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Generally 15" is the smallest that a true viola can be, and generally more than that. It is common to find them played professionally in the range from 15.5 or so up to 17+ inches (39.4 - 43+cm). this is the body length not including the little nub where the neck joins, but including the very edge past the purfling. (A violin is usually 14"/ 35.6cm for comparison).
The string length may be just as important to you: a really long neck can mean that 4th finger is a stretch--if you have small hands. But with big hands you need not worry. String lengths violin 13" / 33 cm, 16" viola is about 14.5" / 36.8cm +/- and 15" to 15.3" with 16.5" and larger instruments.
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Re: Want to learn Viola, already play Violin
18:22 on Sunday, May 1, 2005
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(J. Entwistle)
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Well the violin I have now is the second one I got, which cost about £160, or was it £180, I can`t remember. I will not get a new violin for quite a bit as I like this one alot, and I am not really a pro. The first violin I got was about £60.
Anywho, I have found a nice beginner`s kit for £95 on eBay - http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=16225&item=7319504438&rd=1
I have quite big hands, which proves somewhat difficult for me on my violin when I am playing, and I am hoping that a viola will sort this out.
I will probably get a 15" viola, as I feel that a 14" will be too small and a 16" viola to big.
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Re: Want to learn Viola, already play Violin
18:24 on Sunday, May 1, 2005
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(J. Entwistle)
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p.p.s - I don`t want to give up my violin, as this was the first instrument I learnt, and I want to keep at it.
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Re: Want to learn Viola, already play Violin
21:25 on Sunday, May 1, 2005
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(Nox)
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...by all means do both! Most famous violists started by playing the violin...
...I did the same thing...I play violin at the Grade 4-5 level...and I can play my viola (purchased a year ago) almost as well...except I`m still to slow at reading the C clef...
...I play 2nd violin in my community orchestra...and when my clef reading improves, plan on joining another group as a violist...
...I have a very nice intermediate violin...and purchased an advanced beginner viola ($1000 US)...it`s more than good enough for my playing level...don`t make the mistake of getting too poor an instrument...
...good luck! And have fun!
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Re: Want to learn Viola, already play Violin
21:27 on Sunday, May 1, 2005
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(Nox)
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...btw...I have a 16" viola, apparently it`s the min. sized viola to actually sound like what a viola should...
...having said that...if you`re too small to play a 16", play a smaller one, but keep in mind sound quality might be affected...
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Re: Want to learn Viola, already play Violin
08:11 on Monday, May 2, 2005
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(Tom)
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Yeh if you are tall, 15" will be too small.
IMO if you are serious, there is no point getting a really cheap instrument. Go into some shops - try some out, see what you think. Which part of the UK are you from? Around London, some good shops are Guiviers off Oxford Street if you are looking at £1000+, alternatively Strings in Beaconsfield (North of london), Ealing Strings (in the west) um who else that`s probably about it for good shops.
Btw whoever said `guineas` - they haven`t existed for at least 100 years :D. Pounds is the currency in the UK - about US $1.90 to the UK £1. lol.
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Re: Want to learn Viola, already play Violin
08:13 on Monday, May 2, 2005
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(Tom)
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PS also if you get a viola that is too small, then there is a possibility that you will get it confused with the violin. 15" for a viola is pretty tiny - if you think about it a full size violin is 14"! Definately try out some different sizes. As a guide, your hand should be able to reach at least partially around the scroll.
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OT Guineas
08:55 on Monday, May 2, 2005
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(Bill Platt)
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Hi Tom,
"Bucks" and "pennies" don`t exist either (in US)--nor do "quid" (in UK) yet we use them all the time---slang :-)
Violins and violas are historical instruments and very proper and artistic--what better way to pay for them than with guineas?
Best regards,
Bill
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Re: Want to learn Viola, already play Violin
09:24 on Monday, May 2, 2005
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(J. Entwistle)
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Well, after much thought, I am going to wait for a bit until I get my viola.
Like you said, I am going to go into some shops and try them out.
Thanks for all your help though, it has changed my mind.
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Re: Want to learn Viola, already play Violin
14:51 on Monday, May 2, 2005
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(Tom)
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Fair enough.
Lol like your reasoning Mr Bill (that`s what people seem to call you)
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Re: Want to learn Viola, already play Violin
21:28 on Thursday, May 5, 2005
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(Elizabeth Ward)
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Get a Gliga. They beat any other violas anywhere near the price hands down.
As for the one you mentioned on ebay, two problems. First £15 postage which is rather over the top and makes a total of £110 for a cheap Chinese instrument of unknown quality
The bigger problem though is the number of negs and neutrals this seller has. It is actually quite hard to get a neg selling musical instruments and I wouldn`t touch anyone with less than 99.9% INCLUDING the neutrals.
Liz
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Re: Want to learn Viola, already play Violin
15:23 on Friday, May 6, 2005
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(Zayne)
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Yes, I`m with Elizabeth on this one. I did`nt get a Gliga, however - I got a Genial 1 (College student = no money). They have great service! Great choice in wanting to play viola - we are sought after, for the most part :-)
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