it seems this forum is lacking in actual musicians, don`t get me wrong. every other forum here seems to have a couple of people dominate cause they have so much experience. but this bass forum seems to lag in people who actually know what they are doing. are there really any people here who play seriously, i mean who play in orchestras, or who play for a living?

I`m what people call a musician. It`s hard not to sound like bragging, but I play the electric bass, upright bass, cello, 6-string guitar, piano, organ and any other keyboard instruments, drums, and I`m learning tuba and flute. The bass, guitar, drums, and keys I taught myself. I play in my school`s jazz bands, orchestra, several jazz combos, and the marching/pep band. And, since the extensive origonal composition that I do is probably more that just a hobby, I`m going to major in music in college. So I`m a bona fide musician who knows his theory.

Talent is different from experience. I think he was talking about musicians who`ve had experience in orchestras, bands, as soloists ect.

I was going to add, but forgot, that I wanted to say sorry to anyone that I`ve offended by any arrogant, intollerant attitude I`ve shown to those that I`m answering. It`s too easy to speak down to people who don`t know something about your niche.

Heh, I`ve never posted so much in one day--But to answer your clarification, English-horn, I`ve played in a school orchestra for the past five years, and jazz bands for the past three. Did piano since five years old. ...yeah.

Austin 20:55 on Sunday, January 30, 2005

Heh, I`ve never posted so much in one day--But to answer your clarification, English-horn, I`ve played in a school orchestra for the past five years, and jazz bands for the past three. Did piano since five years old. ...yeah.
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OK, so Austin`s still in school, and
he lacks real working experience, but
he has music and band experience more
than most. Yes it would be great if
this group had contributors like those
that made TBL so great, such as Carol
Kay and Bob Gollihur and others but if
this list remains full of w^nker posts
like "Burn your bass & get a new one",
then such great lights are unlikely to
shine here.

OTOH, some of us are not Musicians of
the breadth or learning that Austin
represents, we don`t plan to be, but
we love what we do and work at trying
to learn more of whatever helps us to
be happier, easier, more reliable and
more pocket-centered thudwakkers. No
reflection on Austin, but I know some
players with credits like his who can
do [so it seems] just *anything* ....
EXCEPT live in the pocket.

At a local weekly jam, I noticed just
a small moment, but one that almost
never happens. Players who did not
know each other were being called up.
The drummer was all settled in but he
rose off his throne and reached out
to greet the bass player. The bass
player took this in stride as normal.
This little moment was a sign that
professional players were about to
work together an do something right
instead of the usual jam-night crap
that goes down. Professional Players
are not always well educated such as
Austin, but they are team players and
know their jobs very well.

This list has too many of those who
turn weekly jams into crap-fests and
too few team players. It needs more
players who take the stage to do the
music, and few as possible of those
who take the stage to be-on-stage.

You have a point Ric. I`ll admit, I`m in school, but answer many of the questions and topics in the sax forum. But don`t get me wrong, I realize that, even though I am a pretty good student, you guys who do this for a living leave me WAY behind in technical shill, sightreading, theory, and so on.Of course I ususualy only answer brands, real beginner questions and the like, as well as post my own questions. Let me restate the facts; I know any musician who plays for a living is soooooo much better than me, you all can sightread pieces that take me months to learn. Of course, I plan to be that good someday, but we`ll see, i guess. I guess this is really a forum for "kids" as I guess you call us. well, I resent being steryotyped (spelling, I know) because I am a "kid." We have a say, even though I realize and recognize how small it is, but don`t push us out of the way without a second thought. Thanks.

tobe honest i don`t think good musicians waste their time on bass forums