i see all this nimrods say when you tune in half step down or flat tuning they say Eb Ab Db Gb Bb Eb there is no Gb or Db Gb would actually be Fd or f sharp and Db would be Cd theres your lesson for the day

I see all these people put under flat tuning or half step drop as Eb Ab Db Gb Bb Eb there is no Db or Gb Db would be Cd or C sharp and Gb would be Fd or F sharp

if you dont have a tuner... do not hold e at a certain fret and make it sound the same as d. not as acurate... starting from standard tuning(eadgbe)and you want to go to d.... hold e at 7 and tune it to make it sound like a. now you are in drop d. if you want to do drop c you do the samething but hold e at 9 but know you got to tune other your other strongs down one step... from(cadgbe) hold c at 7 and make a sound like it and then countinue from there all they way down... need any help or got any questions... IM me or e-mail me...
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A very pedantic point, but Randy is wrong. I think hes thinking about Cb or Fb, which dont exist (or rather, in standard tuning, they are B and E). All the other flats exist, providing you are in an appropriate key signature (which doesn`t apply to tuning). Eb and D# are the same thing, but that doesn`t mean Db doesn`t exist, its just another way of saying the same thing.

I think the guy two above got it, but his explanation is confusing, so I`m gonna try.

For Drop C, use your 6 note tuner to tune your guitar to standard tuning. Then lower the 6th string until it matches the 4th (D). You are now in Drop D.

Now, tune your guitar by ear (using any of many methods) to standard tuning using the 6th string (now in D) as the root. You are now in D tuning (DGCFAD, not to be confused with open D)

Now lower the 6th string until it matches the 4th string again (now a C). You are now in Drop C.

If you can`t tune by ear, then it`s time to learn (see my explanation for tuning with harmonics under the "tuning to one string" thread), but it does practice. Otherwise, you`ll just have to save up $35 for a chromatic tuner.

ok dudes the only person who has helped me so far is mike, ....ur all confusing me lol. nyway thnx mike

Eb = E Flat
Eb is E tuned 1/2 step down.

Randy: They`re called enharmonic equivalents

From E in standard tuning going down is... E, D#, D, C#, C, etc. (highest to lowest). just base it all on that... and just to clarify this... make sure you know that if you go down 1 step then you tune down 2 notes and if you go down 1 half step then you tune down 1 notes... so from E to D is 1 full step... and from E to D# is 1 half step...
Now you gotta under stand the difference between... uh... lets say D tuning and Drop D tuning... Drop D tuning would be standard tuning but the lowest E droped down 1 full step... and D tuning would be the whole guitar in standard but droped down 1 full step. The only thing the same between Drop D and D tuning is that the heaviest string is tuned to D... Now i saw someone talking about Drop C... Just tune to Drop D (you should know how)... and the tune the whole guitar down 1 full step... and if you want Drop C# then you tune to Drop D and then tune the whole guitar down 1 half step... not that hard if you think about it...
And just to let you know... dont tune to Drop C with .10-.42 strings... it will be alll floppy... use maybe... .13-.56 or somewhere around there. It will sound more clearly and it wont be all floppy...

Dont drop your guitar down all the way to C with out custom strings... .9-.42, .10-.46 are for standard tuning or somewhere in there... get .11-.56, and .12-.60 is for drop tuning... they also sell .13-.62 but it is hard to find them... you might be able to tune .13-.62 all the way down to be a 7 string without the high E... I recomend .12-.60 for people who want to play hatebreed and killswitch engage... So uh ya... the string size does matter...

how do you drop c tune i cant find it anywhere!

How do you tune to Drop Q?
Seriously, regarding string guage if your gunna go fatter like .12-.13`s then ya need to file your nut so u can stay in tune.
Drop D: Tune to Concert Pitch (regular E) then lower the 6th string DOWN 1 Full step...* Play the open D (4th string) and LOWER the 6th string to D or 1 Octive lower than the open 4th string.
Drop C: Tune to D (tune the same way you do but ALL the strings are lowered 1 full step DOWN from Concert Pitch). Then tune the 6th string down 1 octive lower than the 4th string.
Drop C is the same as Drop D...it`s just a whole step lower...

for drop d i make your low e
have the same pitch as seventh fret
on the d string. for drop c, tune all your strings down one step, so you get(starting with lowest)
C G C F A D if you have a crappy tuner, then you are pretty much screwed until you completely learn the sounds of the strings...

i can`t figure this out
how do you drop D half step down????????????

can someone tell me a way besides using a tuner to tune to drop d and a half step down (Db Ab Db Gb Bb Eb), because my tuner uses arrows to tune to each note, and i dont know where to stop to have accurate drop d half step tuning. ive been fooling around trying to get it but it never sounds right when playing with songs.