Forte
23:33 on Wednesday, September 24, 2003
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(Harvey)
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Here`s a little piece of information on how to play forte (Romantic period). Lot`s of people play forte very inefficiently, which makes you get really tired really fast, and it makes some very messy sounding running passages.
On an average Steinway, you would put your finger in the right place, slightly stiffened; and you would use your arm to push your hand down, which would push the finger down. Your finger actually moves very little. The force applied is from your arm.
You come down on the key with a sudden burst of force, then quickly relax with just enough force to keep the key down.
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press...relax and hold..................release
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Some people don`t relax after they press the key down, I`d be tired within 10 seconds if I did this.
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press...hold with same force...........release...ouch
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On a lighter piano, such as a Yamaha, you would rely more on velocity than force, so use your finger more than your arm.
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press....key stops...use force to hold down key
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and I hope I never have to draw with the keyboard again.
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Re: Forte
23:35 on Wednesday, September 24, 2003
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(Harvey)
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Wow...I guess the graphs don`t work. I guess they do that to keep people from posting big long posts of space.
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Re: Forte
00:13 on Thursday, September 25, 2003
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(sk238)
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??????What are those graphs tyring to tell?
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Re: Forte
02:50 on Thursday, September 25, 2003
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(ForeignCoffee)
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the strength gotta came from your back. I know it sounds absurd and hard to fathom. However yet once you start utilizing the muscles located in your middle/lower back, you got an endless wealth of strength and big, firm sound.
Er...in the beginning, some back/muscle pain is inevitable.
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Re: Forte
02:53 on Thursday, September 25, 2003
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(ForeignCoffee)
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*back --> shoulders --> arms --> fingers*
works particular well for, well, under-weigh people like I am. Kinda got fed up with being told playing too quiet all my life. Grr.
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Re: Forte
04:54 on Thursday, September 25, 2003
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(ForeignCoffee)
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oh btw, not trying to contradict you Harvey. Just some more extra info...
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Re: Forte
03:14 on Friday, September 26, 2003
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(Harvey)
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Say whatever you want.
The back thing---I don`t use it much. On things approximately ffff, I tend to use the inertia of my whole body with my fingers really stiff.
Ummm...like in etude "revolutionary"...the last four chords...yeah. I`ve never busted a hammer or a string before.
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Re: Forte
19:20 on Wednesday, November 5, 2003
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(Mike Lauwrie)
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Although I agree with your advice, Harvey. I would like to add that when many people try to play loud, they are far too tense. Most of your volume comes from dropping the arm from a height, and not from arm muscle. Of course with awkward chords, or if the passage is too far, one must use a compromise. But if possible one must use the weight of the arm.
Mike
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