Thanks heaps Ludwig Van Rachabji

Great help .

Your welcome. Glad I could help!

I enjoyed reading this forum on a boring afternoon at work. I didn`t read every page (!) but has anyone mentioned Godowsky? He composed some arrangements of Chopin`s etudes - some of them for the left hand only, including a version of the revolutionary. That can`t be easy.

I have a question about one of Liszt`s Transcendental etudes. I think it`s in A minor. There are a few sections where the right hand has to jump up and down 3 octaves, and it looks sooo difficult. Could someone who has played it tell me how they got these parts right? Cos it looks like a physical impossibility unless you cheat and use the left hand too! (or maybe I`m just naive)

Thanks

p.s. I think it`s etude no. 2

About the transcendtal Etude, I believe the A minor one is the second one. Jumping from three octaves can fit easily under the hand, well not easily, but not as a physical impossibility.

http://muslib.mmv.ru/piano/list_trans2.pdf

Go to that URL and look at measure 15, I tried that particular measure and I found it easy, switching in the middle from 5th finger to the thumb. But if you look at measure 74 and then 75 the leap is even greater. Although not impossible, these types of songs take dedication. These particular measure would just take practice for accuracy and precision. If you can roll your rist the propor way, with a very loose flowing feeling in your fingers, then with time, these will prove simple...

(This might not be the one you`re talking about, but it kinda fits the profile, lol)

Thanks for that Nick. That`s the exact part I was talking about! I agree that bar 15 isn`t too harsh, but bar 76, with the added complication of a few minor thirds thrown in, must take a lot of practice as you said.

I would love to see this piece performed!

I`m playing la Campanella right now, and it is quite difficult, like combining 5 or 6 Chopin etudes.

There are sections where you have to trill in the right hand, while playing a melody at the same time. There is a 4-5 trill and the thumb plays every 4 of the trill notes. The key to la Campanella is to relax, and to strike the key with the bare minimum force required to play the note. I was enlightened the other day by the realization that I was playing too hard, and now I am doing much better.

Next, I have the choice between Chopin`s g minor ballade, Liszt`s Mephisto Waltz, his Rhapsody no 11, Rhapsody no 2, and his transcription of Pagannini Etude no 2.

I think that I will choose Mephisto, and chances are that it will be even more difficult than la Campanella.

la Campanella is definitely more difficult than any piece that I have played, including Fantasie Impromptu, etude op 10 no 1, revolutionary, ocean, winter wind, E flat major, op 10 no 2, all by Chopin, and g minor prelude by Rachmaninoff.

I agree that difficulty depends on the pianist. For instance, Bach prelude and Fugue in C sharp major came more easily for me than others, because the fugue in that is a beast, and for others, Liszt would be easier.

Lolita by, CECILE CHAMINADE (CAPRICE ESPANOL, Opus 54.)

If your as good as you say are then it should be a breeze.

go to musicnotes.com and check it out

Try scherzo opus 46 by Alexander SCRIABIN. It`s a level 9 and you have to play really fast quite complicated chords.Also you will only be able to play the piece by yourself properly only if you have really big hands.
You can get this song free off www.music-scores.com

But first you will have to be a member.

Try the left hand concerto by ravel, or concerto 1 by liszt. Some of Rachmaninoff`s sonatas are also very hard. Also his concertos are hard. Or you could try some of the longer piano pieces by stavinsky (very hard to memorize his dissonant ones).

Jordan Rudess is pretty hard ;-)

I think islamey by balakirev is the hardest piece. Gaspard de la nuit, by ravel is also a very difficult piece. Hmmm any other ones?? Oh yeah, i forgot...Scriabin`s pieces are way out of range for me since they require big stretches with the hands. Those are some difficult pieces.

If anyone would like to have the Islamey Oriental fantsay by Balakrieve.

send a message to fwed_bob@hotmail.com

and i`ll send it to ya

cheers

anyone yet consider the paganini variations by brahms

they hurt in ways i didnt think music could pain me

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