LOL. The recorder has its own section? Hehe.

By the way, did you know that schmuck, in German, means a piece of finery or jewelry?

No I didn't. Thanks.

Sorry for the double post, but in regard to its making music - so does a kazoo. Enough said.

If you think about it, with the kazoo post, a piece of paper or plastic (or a blade of grass) can be an instrument too.


I'm so freaking tired of this debate! People! If you don't think it's an instrument, read the entire post! More than likely you're just repeating something! It is an instrument. An instrument is anything that can create music. Music doesn't always have to be pleasing to listen to. At least one of you has to dislike country or rap. That's the same principle. Consider a contempory sax quartet mixed with various native Japanese instruments. Odd? Yes, very, and doesn't sound very good to me. But it is still music, and there are people that enjoy it.

I know I haven't been on in a while, but trust me. If you are a newcomer to the board, do not reply! We know that you wonder why recorders have their own forum. For all I care, 8notes can post a forum for each possible instrument! But if they did that, you'd have bajillions of people saying kazoo isn't an instrument, a pop bottle isn't an instrument, a 10 gallon tub isn't an instrument, you get the idea.


Just stop the discussion already!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I agree with ya and the others who dont need to shut up

shame on you people who don't think a recorder is n instrument, it was the first instrument i ever played back when i was 8 years old, it's a beautiful instrument and I was in a recorder ensemble for three years playing the treble recorder, I still play it now and have been playing the treble and tenor recorders for 7 years, the descant for 8, and by the way, those of you who are using the whole recorders aren't in orchestras argument, there are two recorders in my school orchestra!! although i must admit my school orchestra isn't exactly traditional (we are made up of recorders, clarinets (i'm moving to first clarinet in september yay!!), saxophones, flutes, guitars (electric and classical), keyboards, piano, two drumkits, violins, and celli) but regardless it's still in our orchestra and we sound fantastic!

recorder is the instrument i've played longest and it's the reason i'm a musician.

anyway i find this a really weird argument, i've never heard of anyone who doesn't feel that a recorder is an instrument. the only debate i've heard about something that is an instrument though some disagree, is about voice, which i believe is an instrument but others don't, so i find this argument quite ridiculous, i'm sure many others feel the same.

"A good workman never blames his tools." The first time I heard an experienced player play the recorder, I was astounded - it sounded so different from the recorders we played at school. My mum used to put her hands over her ears when I was screeching out a tune of "Three Blind Mice". But when long-haired, ultra-cool Mr Recorder player twinkled out a melody on his recorder(Hm...that came out wrong somehow) the recorder sounded like the most beautiful instrument in the world! ;-)

Recorders are sooo instruments but i don't think there should be a whole section for them. I mean a solo is cool (i had one in 8th grade).

There was this one concert on TV and this musician was playing the recorder. She made it sound amazing so I agree with the others, maybe it's just you guys making it sound bad. I'm not saying I sound as good as that musician but i'm not saying i sound horrible either. W/E
-Jello-

better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to open your mouth and remove all doubt

trombone is cool lol. Sax is better! Recorder is a begginers instrument and it helps kids learn the treble clef and even fingerings for other instruments (a.k.a SAX!!!)

it is an instrument and its not in any bands because the loud music would tune out the recorder.
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I think the recorder has acquired a bad reputation because of many people's experiences of primary school kids playing cheap descants (sopranos) out of tune. I'd urge those who are claiming it's not a real instrument to look beyond that and have a listen to some of the solo players listed earlier in this thread or to some decent ensemble music - either in the Renaissance/Baroque style or more modern stuff, to taste. Yes, modern recorder music does exist!

For the record, I'm 20 and I continue to play recorders from sopranino to bass alongside the flute and other instruments.

Unless of course you're just making these comments to stir up trouble and annoy people. In which case I'd urge you to go away.

For those who don't believe the recorder is in any bands check out
http://www.recorderhomepage.net/torture5.html

And look at the list of bands who have used the recorder. Also as far as it not being an instrument, it is the oldest most unchanged instrument and was at its height in the 1700s. Some of the most famous composers of the time, Bach, Telemann, Vivaldi all scored for the recorder so how can you clam it isn't a real instrument?

Since its revival in the 1900s (it was lost there for a while because it couldn't compete with the sound of the growing orchestra) there have been hundreds of compositions for the recorder from England, USA, Europe, even from Japan and Australia.

I myself am currently studying the recorder at university. I think if you took the time to learn it properly, you will find it is much more difficult to play than many other instruments and that's after you learn the hundereds of different fingerings for each note! I suggest finding a professional teacher and having a lesson and just see how childish your views on the recorder really are.