New French Horn or Mouthpiece?
18:36 on Wednesday, September 20, 2006
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Re: New French Horn or Mouthpiece?
21:23 on Wednesday, September 20, 2006
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joeyhanks13 (35 points)
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The first thing you need to do is make sure that you have learned all there is to know and that your embouchure is correct. While switching to a new mouthpiece will help, and needs to be done eventualy (as for begginers mouthpieces are not meant to be played on forever), incorrect embouchure will help too.
I'm currently playing on a Schilke 30. It's has a medium depth that can be compared to the Holton Farkas MC (medium cup). I would probably recommend either one of those. I played on the Farkas for a while, but the Schilke just seems to suit me better.
Plus things just take practice too. Practicing low notes will help you play high notes. I could hit G's until my 3rd year and not consistently until the end of my 4th, granted I never practiced in the beginning, but now I'm playing the F and G above that. So practice will help. Just remember, make sure the embouchure is right, then switch.
Also, do research. Different mouthpieces do different things. Some professionals have "shoeboxes" full of mouthpieces. If they want to play high they grab one, low another, medium another, all around another. Try to find one that gives you a good all around. In the beginning years you'll be fine with a medium ranged one.
I hope this helps.
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Sorry, in the first paragraph I meant to say having the correct embouchure will help too. I kind of defied my point by saying incorrect. I really should proof read...haha.
*Reads*
The third paragraph needs to be I couldn't* hit G's until my 3rd year...
I think that's it...
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Re: New French Horn or Mouthpiece?
02:59 on Thursday, September 21, 2006
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Re: New French Horn or Mouthpiece?
15:42 on Thursday, September 21, 2006
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Re: New French Horn or Mouthpiece?
15:44 on Thursday, September 21, 2006
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Re: New French Horn or Mouthpiece?
02:14 on Friday, September 22, 2006
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Re: New French Horn or Mouthpiece?
02:39 on Friday, September 22, 2006
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ekdavies (208 points)
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There are websites which provide technical information on mouthpieces such as http://www.horncups.com (I usually use PHC mouthpieces) and comparisons http://www.brass-forum.co.uk
My instinct, is that a different mouthpiece wont help much unless you are using one which is especially depth or otherwise unsuited to you. While there are "normal" ways of position your lips etc (2/3 upper lip 1/3 lower lip) many excellent horn plays use different setups. For instance, players with big lips cant comfortably fit all the red of the lips within the mouthpiece!
There books on embouchure and mouthpiece choice (eg The Art of French Horn playing by Phliip Farkas) but a good teacher would be easier to understand and give less general advice etc. Many horn players initially use too much pressure which has the consequence of poor endurance and sometimes tone and range limitations. The goal is to tense your lips - without stretching them thiner or using the mouthpiece to pin them - with plenty of air to encourage them to vibrate at a high frequency. This means that your face muscles are working in different ways to a typical cornet player. Your face muscles are pushing your lips together while the lip muscles are keeping them apart.
Dont expect to be able to change your embouchure overnight. It usually takes weeks or months depending on age (takes longer when your older), the amount you practice etc
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Re: New French Horn or Mouthpiece?
07:39 on Thursday, September 28, 2006
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nettiethefrog (17 points)
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Hey! It's my second year as well, and I play on a double horn. Using the Bb side makes things easier, but on the F side I can usually get up to an F, and if I try hard enough, an A...Just keep practicing the chromatic scale and see how high you get on the F side. If you get a double then you should be able to hit the notes with less strain (ha, who am I to talk???)
Don't get a new horn or mouthpiece just yet.
It's up to you though.
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Re: New French Horn or Mouthpiece?
16:13 on Thursday, September 28, 2006
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Re: New French Horn or Mouthpiece?
13:53 on Friday, September 29, 2006
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