Song Writing

    
Song Writing    06:44 on Tuesday, January 7, 2003          
(Flee)
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Hey i`m in a small rock band based in derbyshire and i have come acroos a problem that people on this forum may be able to help me with......

I write songs for the band but i seem to be churning out depressing line after depressing line. The only exception is when i write an aggressive polemic or something along those lines! (but the overall message is usually depressing

I need some advice on how to write a happy song!

i only seem to be able to write happyish love ballads but i need advise on how to write some sort of happy energetic anthem or something similar!! If anyone can help please E-Mail me on soulfly_of_666@hotmail.com or visit my bands site http://www.geocities.com/insight_official/ and post on the guestbook there and i will contact you!

Thank ye and Goodbye!

Flee


Re: Song Writing    01:11 on Wednesday, March 12, 2003          
(Jen)
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im not much help, but here goes anyways..first of all if the kind of music u write is ment for young people like 16 or so, then ur depressing lyrics are perfect, who cant relate? but u trying to write somin happy, well, a sad song can be happy, not many people really listen to the lyrics.. for example---> some nickelback songs, seem happy, when really, theres a message there, so id say keep up the depressing lyrics, they are true, and besides, if what comes to ur head are these depressing lyrics, then ur music is really expressing feelings of your own. keep up the good work!


Re: Song Writing    22:27 on Thursday, April 17, 2003          
(Marilyn)
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Depressing is all there is...life is sad. Instead of trying to write a fake song that seems happy, why not develop what you already know you can write? There is not a large group of people out there, with any sort of intelligence anyway, that would rather listen to Celin Dion than Marilyn Manson. Dont look at your lyrics as depressing...look at them as intelligent and biting. That is all.


Re: Song Writing    22:28 on Thursday, April 17, 2003          
(Marilyn)
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And another thing...Nickelback sucks. Stay Beautiful.


Re: Song Writing    01:15 on Friday, April 18, 2003          
(Jen)
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nickelback does NOT suck. i wouldnt put down a band u like.. so why would u go doin that? seems really petty dont u think? NICKELBACK KICK ASS!!!!! obviously you, just dont realise that.. CANUCKS ROCK!!


HELP!    19:14 on Saturday, August 16, 2003          
(Bre)
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Hey everyone-Me and some of my friends decided to start a band-and I`m the lead singer so they want me to write the lyrics and tunes-but I`m having a hard time getting started-i havent had many crisis` to write about-HELP!


Re: Song Writing    22:27 on Saturday, August 16, 2003          
(marilyn)
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hi marilyn my name is marilyn too.
anyway ur most likely writing what u feel inside and u let it out in ur songs(saw that on a tv show)if u really want ur songs to sound happy just think of sumthin happy or try to imagine what would make u ghappy and there u go write about that. although i also suggest u stick with the depresing stuff.

bre, if u cant think of anythin first start on what kind of song u want,rock,pop,punk,happy,sad, luv, u kno. then just think of things that go with it, just start writing and tha stuff will cum 2 u after a while, that always works 4 me.

hope u do good with the band and maybe u could make a post with sum of ur songs or the lyrics to part of a song so i can read them.


Re: Song Writing    22:32 on Saturday, August 16, 2003          
(marilyn)
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u said u havnt had many crisis` to write about, then maybe u can write about sumthin that didnt happen to u. even if it didnt happen 2 u the lyrics can still sound from deap within if u get into ur writing enough, have passion when u write ur songs and remember just keep writin till sumthin comes.


Re: Song Writing    15:23 on Sunday, October 26, 2003          
(Alex*andra*)
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depressing lyrics are my god. if it wasnt for depressing lyrics...i dunno, i just dont kno what id do w/o depressing lyrics. i say keep the depressing lyrics n itll all be good in the end.


Re: Song Writing    16:12 on Monday, October 27, 2003          
(Machine Gun Louie)
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I dont know, i`m reading all your comments guys,and to me it`s seems like you`re saying :
" Intelligent lyrics = Sad lyrics ". And if i read between the lines, you`re kind of telling me that happy lyrics are fake. I mean lyrics and peotry are just ways of expressions, so you`re faking only if you`re writing against your thought, except if you`re writing ironicly.
To me, writing lyrics can be a therapeutic process. So when i`m in a bad mood, i use my lyrics to dig my feelings and understand what`s behind it, ans at the end it always sounds hopeful and somewhat happy, cause, in a kind of way, i resolve my problem and turn it into something happy.
Personnaly, i try not to fall in the poor-me cliché. I dont know if it helps you get attention but know that the Romantics have done the same thing 100 years ago. Anyway your life is probably not so s hitty so dont lose your time in trying to sound pittiful. What i mean is write sad lyrics if you rally fell like it and you think it will help, but dont TRY to write sad ones.


Re: Song Writing    12:16 on Friday, November 7, 2003          
(HiImBob)
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all punk and pop rock sucks, but can any of you give me some advice, bullet style, about song writing? i`m doing a project at school and i cant use my own words by my own experience and i need some advice?


Re: Song Writing    06:28 on Tuesday, November 11, 2003          
(Flee)
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Well generally you need a subject, not always imperative but it helps!

Then you need to write an opening line, this generally sets the atmosphere for the song, then elaborate on that one line throughout the verse.

The chorus should be like a narrator, normally containing the strongest lyrics in the chorus, as this is the part of the song that most will remember.

Thats pretty much all you need to do for a basic verse, chorus, verse, chorus kinda song. If you really want to be clever, you can even write a bridge!!! Or if your me, a bridge and a post chorus/pre-verse!! But i`m just retarded!


Re: Song Writing    06:33 on Tuesday, November 11, 2003          
(Flee)
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And heres one i wrote earlier!! Opinions please?


Do you believe you can love me once again,
Do you believe i can wash past faults away.

Scrub a slate clean,
With tainted water.

Can You step back and see the bigger picture,
Can you see us standing over there,
Can you drink from the same puddle i do everyday,
Can you handle me again.

Fought my way through childhood,
the light is just in reach now,
maybe your right,
maybe your all right.

I`m living in a tornado,
My life swirling around me,
I can`t face anybody now,
But i need you.

False dedications,
What makes her different.

Can You step back and see the bigger picture,
Can you see us standing over there,
Can you drink from the same puddle i do everyday,
Can you handle me again.

All or nothing, burn myself again,
Can you grant me all my wishes,
Lifes casino, the house took me again,
Can you really take me home.

Can You step back and see the bigger picture,
Can you see us standing over there,
Can you drink from the same puddle i do everyday,
Can you handle me again.

Can You step back and see the bigger picture,
Can you see us standing over there,
Can you drink from the same cup i do everyday,
Can you handle me again.

Weaken my senses,
Souls among a broken body, broken mind,
Emotional metamorphisis,
Tear me down.


Re: Song Writing    12:33 on Tuesday, November 11, 2003          
(emily)
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i like the lyrics. stick it with a kick ass melody and you could have quite the song there


Re: Song Writing    12:49 on Tuesday, November 11, 2003          
(Simon)
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"There is not a large group of people out there, with any sort of intelligence anyway, that would rather listen to Celin Dion than Marilyn Manson."

I would rather listen to almost anyone then Marilyn Manson...you talked about fakeness in your post...that is exactly what Manson is, a fake, a puppet if you will...


   








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